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Grex > Helpers > #138: Grex System Problems - Winter 2004/2005 |  |
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keesan
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response 688 of 870:
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Feb 9 02:21 UTC 2005 |
Jim and Kiwanis probably have this cable.
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gelinas
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response 689 of 870:
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Feb 9 02:31 UTC 2005 |
Kiwanis did not.
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tsty
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response 690 of 870:
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Feb 9 02:49 UTC 2005 |
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, ethernet wiring, iirc, is *not* wired correctly
for telephone use. oh, wait, that is incorrect since polarity
no longer matters to the modern phone newtwork.
this applies to 4-conductor cable.
gull's #686 is correct for phones, single-pair and two-pair.
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gull
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response 691 of 870:
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Feb 9 03:55 UTC 2005 |
It's true that ethernet wiring isn't quite the same as phone wiring, but
the cable itself is fine -- the difference is in how the ends are
attached. You're going to have to change the ends anyway, unless your
phone stuff has RJ-45 jacks on it. (Which isn't unheard of, mind you,
but it's rare.)
There are still some things out there that care about polarity, though
you're unlikely to run into them. I found out the hard way this week
that polarity matters a lot to DID lines. Ended up making a custom
cable for a new fax modem because the jack at work was wired backwards,
to compensate for some old equipment that was also wired backwards. DID
lines are their own special nastiness, though; take everything about how
phone signalling normally works and stand it on its head, and you have a
good idea how a DID line is set up.
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charcat
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response 692 of 870:
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Feb 9 05:37 UTC 2005 |
having no luck at dialing in on the new number I listened in while
dialing and heard the recording "you must dial a 1 and the area code"
does this meen the call is now long distance for us western washtenaw
users? If so I'm upset. It basicaly makes my other computer and my
mother's useless. Why couldn't we keep and ann arbor phone?
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krj
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response 693 of 870:
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Feb 9 05:41 UTC 2005 |
Leslie/arabella's .login file doesn't run when she logs in. This broke
with the migration to the new machine. The commands in the file
all seem to run fine if she types "source .login"
I can't figure out what's different between her setup and mine; my .login
has always run as expected.
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keesan
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response 694 of 870:
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Feb 9 05:43 UTC 2005 |
How many hours a month do you normally dial in to grex from those two
computers? Access-4-free offers ten free hours/month internet access from
which you could telnet ($5 signup fee). And I ran across one long distance
phone company which was under 3 cents/minute within MI. I had no idea Ypsi
was a long distance call from Chelsea.
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charcat
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response 695 of 870:
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Feb 9 06:10 UTC 2005 |
ypsi is long distance for Chelsea, Dexter, Manchester I'm not sure about
Saline.
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keesan
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response 696 of 870:
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Feb 9 15:45 UTC 2005 |
Is ypsi at least local for some towns that Ann Arbor is not, east of ypsi?
Steve, do you have a dsl line at your usual computer and if so, does this mean
you cannot also dial in to the isp from other locations?
I suspect another friend in Chelsea is going to drop her grex membership if
she has to pay for an ISP to reach her mail here. If the old number is
forwarding, is that original number still a local call from Chelsea? That
would at least give people 90 days of free calls while they found another way
to access mail.
I still cannot dial in to grex. Worked right after the modems were
reinstalled but not since then.
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jor
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response 697 of 870:
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Feb 9 19:55 UTC 2005 |
I looked at some login files:
drwxr-xr-x 30 root wheel 512 Dec 28 01:17 /a
drwxr-xr-x 38 root wheel 512 Jul 16 2001 /a/k
drwxr-xr-x 38 root wheel 512 Jul 16 2001 /a/a
drwxr-xr-x 46 root wheel 1024 Feb 8 16:53 /a/k/r
drwxr-xr-x 63 root wheel 1024 Feb 1 14:35 /a/a/r
drwxr-xr-x 10 krj people 9728 Feb 9 00:44 /a/k/r/krj
drwxr-xr-x 3 arabella people 3072 Feb 9 00:36 /a/a/r/arabella
-rw-r--r-- 1 krj people 712 Dec 28 23:19 /a/k/r/krj/.login
-rw-r--r-- 1 arabella people 333 Feb 9 00:16 /a/a/r/arabella/.login
Just wondering if some protection was different somewhere in the
paths. Making the .login executable might be worth the trouble.
I have a very dim memory, of the hash mark "#" as the
first char on the first line of a script, in some cases,
for some shells, also making a difference *on the second line*.
I can't find any corroboration but it's worth a try.
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edina
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response 698 of 870:
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Feb 9 20:33 UTC 2005 |
I'm having a problem in that when I log in on occasion, it treats all items
in Winter like a brand new item. Is this due to rebooting or what, and how
can I fix it? Or more importantly, how much of a bribe to get a staff member
to fix it for me?
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slynne
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response 699 of 870:
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Feb 9 21:16 UTC 2005 |
If there are enough members who need local access to grex, we might be
able to justify the expense of having some sort of call forwarding from
Ann Arbor.
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i
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response 700 of 870:
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Feb 9 21:20 UTC 2005 |
How are the new phone lines working for dial-in users who've
tried 'em? My modem can't seem to connect (endless training
tones) and it sounds like the lines have fairly bad static.
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keesan
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response 701 of 870:
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Feb 9 23:16 UTC 2005 |
I was just able to dial in now. Instant connection once the modem stopped
making noises.
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russ
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response 702 of 870:
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Feb 10 00:02 UTC 2005 |
Disk quotas are too low on /tmp; I can't even gzip a dump and put
it there temporarily to download.
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cross
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response 703 of 870:
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Feb 10 01:17 UTC 2005 |
This response has been erased.
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charcat
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response 704 of 870:
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Feb 10 04:00 UTC 2005 |
resp #696 yes the old number was a local call. I don't know why I'm so
upset about this, I can use the internet to connect from my home
computer but I know 2 people who can't. How much extra would it cost
grex to keep an ann arbor phone or call forwarding?
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gelinas
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response 705 of 870:
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Feb 10 05:41 UTC 2005 |
I don't know, but I can probably find out how much it would cost to set up
permanent forwarding. I'll try to call SBC tomorrow.
One difference between ~krj/.login and ~arbella/.login is:
if ($?prompt) then
. . .
endif
I don't know that that is the problem, though.
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aruba
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response 706 of 870:
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Feb 10 14:40 UTC 2005 |
I was able to dial in last night, but not this morning. melanief called to
tell me she still can't connect.
Joe, I think some of the GVC modems were suspect, and we had the best of
them in service before the move. Are the two that are connected now from
the pool of modems that were in use before, or were they idle?
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keesan
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response 707 of 870:
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Feb 10 16:31 UTC 2005 |
I could not dial in this morning either.
Steve, are you using dialin service to your ISP or broadband? If broadband,
don't ISPs also let you dialin as well so you can connect when away from home?
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gregb
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response 708 of 870:
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Feb 10 17:49 UTC 2005 |
Can't speak for all, but Comcast and WOW do not.
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albaugh
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response 709 of 870:
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Feb 10 21:09 UTC 2005 |
> WARNING: Your mailbox is 87% full.
> If it reachs 100%, you will no longer be able to receive mail.
It is my experience on nextgrex that this is not true: Due to being sent
several large attachments at once and SPAM, I know I've well exceeded the
inbox limit (still 1MB?), and yet have been able to receive more mail.
That has proven to be very useful, as there was a time I couldn't run mail
to clear out stuff, due to the low /tmp quota, yet this didn't start
bouncing mail to senders.
OTOH, if the inbox limit isn't enforced, that could allow a big pile up of
junk sent to defunct accounts etc.
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keesan
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response 710 of 870:
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Feb 11 00:28 UTC 2005 |
I got 'network not supported' first time I tried to ssh here, then the second
time it worked. Is this something to do with where I am ssh'ing from?
Still cannot dial in.
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gelinas
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response 711 of 870:
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Feb 11 03:54 UTC 2005 |
The modems are from the active pool.
Last I looked, the mail quota was 5MB.
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i
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response 712 of 870:
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Feb 11 11:12 UTC 2005 |
Dial-in/modems/problems:
What i'm hearing definitely sounds like continuous, bad line noise. I've
no problems (& don't hear line noise) dialing other places. Dunno...i'd
say it must be in the trunk line (vs. "last mile") from what folks are
saying, but i'd also thought that noisy trunk lines were a thing of the
past.
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