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twenex
response 663 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 03:29 UTC 2005

What?!
richard
response 664 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 03:42 UTC 2005

deliberately posting a bad link on grex on purpose should be seen as 
just as bad as deliberately posting bad code on grex.  Or deliberately 
posting any sort of information known beforehand to be bad on grex.  
It is corrupting the quality of the bbs.  Grex should pride itself on 
the quality of its posts, and that means staff taking action when it 
sees users deliberately and purposely posting bad information 
repeatedly.  
aruba
response 665 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 03:44 UTC 2005

Re #661 - something must have changed, because I could connect to the
Pumpkin but I can't connect to Grex in its new home.  Nothing's changed on
my end except the phone number I'm dialing.  It does sound like there's a
little bit of line noise, but I wouldn't think that'd be enough to cause a
problem.

BTW Joe - do these lines hunt?  I.e., if I dial 0512, and it's busy, will
I be forwarded to 0513?

Also, the !phones command needs to be updated.
gelinas
response 666 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 04:11 UTC 2005

The 'phone company tells me they hunt.

The phones script is updated.
scholar
response 667 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 04:12 UTC 2005

http://www.richardscrusade.org/
glenda
response 668 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 04:34 UTC 2005

Re #664:  Richard, don't feed the troll!
keesan
response 669 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 05:00 UTC 2005

I tried just now and could not connect via dialing.  I might have been using
a different computer earlier when I connected.  I have mostly USR Sportsters
flashed from x2 to v90.  This one is a 28.8K.   
scott
response 670 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 08:30 UTC 2005

When I get back I could try to dig up my old Newton-based modem configuration.
jep
response 671 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 13:56 UTC 2005

re resp:664: Grex should pride itself on the quality of it's posts?  Do 
you read most of the responses?  The URL postings are below average in 
creativity and information content but they are hardly the bottom of 
the barrel here.  Just filter the author, as I do.  Then you don't have 
to worry about them any more.
happyboy
response 672 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:17 UTC 2005

you filter?
naftee
response 673 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:25 UTC 2005

He's a backtalk user.
happyboy
response 674 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:35 UTC 2005

filters are for pussies.
mcnally
response 675 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 18:51 UTC 2005

  picospan still segvs when I scribble a response.
scholar
response 676 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 19:10 UTC 2005

Re. 674: AHAH< AND FOR CUNTS
happyboy
response 677 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 19:55 UTC 2005

HAHAHA>LOL
cross
response 678 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 20:20 UTC 2005

This response has been erased.

aruba
response 679 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 20:29 UTC 2005

I can't run Pine because (I think) Grex is unable to find my terminal in the
utmp file.  What does that mean?
gull
response 680 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 20:43 UTC 2005

Re resp:664: Honestly, I think staff has better things to do than
censoring people's posts.
remmers
response 681 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 20:45 UTC 2005

Caveat re resp:678 - Fronttalk is beta, so expect some rough edges if
you use it.  However, Jan's been putting a lot of work into it recently
and it's getting to be in good shape.  There's an item in the Garage
conference to discuss Fronttalk bugs and features (item:garage,5).
keesan
response 682 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 23:26 UTC 2005

I can't dial or telnet to grex now.
gelinas
response 683 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 23:51 UTC 2005

So far, only the first modem has been used.
gelinas
response 684 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 00:44 UTC 2005

Telnet and ssh both work for me.  I want to get some cat3 telephone cable.  I
have cat5, but I don't think that will work for telephone.

Of course, I could put two jacks on each end of the cat5, instead of one, and
use one cable for both modems. :)
naftee
response 685 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 00:52 UTC 2005

 :)
gull
response 686 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 00:58 UTC 2005

CAT5 will work fine.  It's just more expensive.  CAT3 and CAT5 both have
four twisted pairs (eight conductors), incidentally -- CAT5 just allows
for more bandwidth.

In either case it's just a matter of crimping the right connectors on
the ends (or attaching the right jacks, as the case may be).  For best
noise rejection, don't "split pairs" -- use two wires from the cable
that are twisted around each other for the phone line.  Only the two
center conductors of a phone connector actually do anything, on a
single-line phone, and in fact you'll find a lot of commercial phone
cords only have two wires.

So, for a single-line phone, the connector would look like this:

--AA--  (Where - is empty, and A are wires from one pair of the cable.)

For a two-line phone, it would look like this:

-BAAB-  (Where A is from one pair, and B is from another.)


Incidentally, the two wires that are used on a phone connector
correspond with the two unused positions on a 10baseT ethernet
connector.  I suspect this is to help protect ethernet equipment from
damage when some clueless person accidentally plugs a phone line into it.
gull
response 687 of 870: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 00:59 UTC 2005

Hmm.  I just found this website that probably explains it in a less
confusing way than I just did:
http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/phone_wiring.html
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