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valerie
response 65 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 03:14 UTC 1998

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jiffer
response 66 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 04:43 UTC 1998

oh!  three! I thought it was two!  I should revote. Nifty keenies!
janc
response 67 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 06:49 UTC 1998

A weird request:

  Someone in California has offered to donate a computer to Grex.  This
  is a machine similar to the one we are now running on, but in a bigger
  chassis.  If this goes through (it's not sure yet), they'd be willing
  to ship us all the innards, but the shipping the chassis would
  probably be too costly.  We're not completely sure we want the chassis
  (it's a bit of a white elephant), but it might be neat.  If our
  representative could show up with a truck (you could probably move
  the thing in a pickup) before December 15, they'd let us take the
  whole thing away.

  So we were curious whether anyone who owned or could borrow a truck
  felt like driving to California and back to fetch a computer chassis
  that we may or may not actually want (we definately want its innards).

  I'm not sure that this would be a sane thing to do, but it never
  hurts to ask.  I think we could come up with gas money.
scott
response 68 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 11:55 UTC 1998

Jan, would it fit in the back of a car?  I think by saying "truck" you 
make it sound like something refrigerator-sized.
remmers
response 69 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 13:43 UTC 1998

Colleen McGee (cmcgee) has indicated that she is not available to serve
on the Board. I'll remove her name from the ballot as soon as I get a
chance. Members who voted for her might wish to re-vote.
rcurl
response 70 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 16:03 UTC 1998

Where in CA? How big is (are) the thing(s), and how much do it (they) weigh
(approx). I can inquire on mailinglists in CA for people driving east.
rcurl
response 71 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 16:04 UTC 1998

Oh yes - and how much is the 'gas money' offer?
aruba
response 72 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 17:50 UTC 1998

Yeah, at $.33/mile (which was the standard for mileage last I heard) the trip
from California is worth about $990, which we are clearly *not* willing to
pay.
dpc
response 73 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 19:15 UTC 1998

I voted!
keesan
response 74 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 23:07 UTC 1998

I thought CA was about 2000 not 3000 mile, making gas $670 or so, or is this
the far south of CA?  Maybe a grex member living in CA would be willing to
pick up the chassis and store it until someone drove east?  I once chatted
with someone in CA (from India, of course).  Put this in the motd?
scg
response 75 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 01:56 UTC 1998

It's in Redwood Shores, California, I think.  It's 19" rackmountable, meaning
it's at most 19 inches wide, and probably about three feet tall or so, but
I may be wrong about that.  I would guess it's probably somewhere around 2
feet deep.  It's likely to be fairly heavy.

$.33 per mile covers more than gas money, and Jan's offer was to pay gas
money, not milage.  My small pick-up truck, which is in no condition to get
to California and back without some amount of work and a driver who is willing
to deal with problems on the road, gets around 30 miles to the gallon on the
freeway.  I don't know if that's at all typical or not, but assuming it is,
a 4,000 mile round trip would consume around 133 gallons of gas, so at a
dollar a gallon, that would be around $133.
jerome
response 76 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 04:26 UTC 1998

If no one is willing/able to make it the whole distance, possibly some type
of brigade could be formed.  If this is the case (and if time isn't
an issue) I would be willing to transport it from, say, central Colorado to
eastern Iowa or possibly western Illinois.  Grexers across the US, unite!
aruba
response 77 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 04:44 UTC 1998

Re #74:  Oops, you're right.  I grew up on the East Coast, so I still think of
California as 3000 miles away, even though it's not.
janc
response 78 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 16:44 UTC 1998

Hmmm...the gas price is more than I thought.  The pictures I've seen of
the box look taller than 3 feet.  I'm not sure the chassis is worth
$670 of gas to us.
keesan
response 79 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 17:11 UTC 1998

Would a wooden box work as well?  What does the chassis do?  
mcnally
response 80 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 18:03 UTC 1998

  A wooden box would probably hold in far too much heat..
scott
response 81 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 21:05 UTC 1998

A wooden box will probably not have a VME backplane, or a power supply.

But we have a spare chassis or two here.  If we are buying spares, then we'd
likely be just putting a good card into the chassis to replace one that died.
rcurl
response 82 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 22:14 UTC 1998

I have not unleashed my inquiry for transportation from CA (re #70, 71) as
the answers to my questions appear to be uncertain ( "...I think..." ). If
the powwers-that-be want me to inquire, please e-mail me with the true
facts. 

scg
response 83 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 23:50 UTC 1998

I think I'd be somewhat uncomfortable with handing valuable hardware like this
off to random people from mailing lists that nobody here knows.  If these are
people you know and trust, that would be different.  I certainly can't speak
for the whole staff and board on that.
rcurl
response 84 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 06:00 UTC 1998

I would trust these people with my life (and have), but I'm just making
an offer to find assistance, and am not pushing this. 
scg
response 85 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 06:07 UTC 1998

Ok, that's fine with me, then.  I wasn't sure from what you were saying if
this was a mailing list of people you knew, or a mailing list of a bunch fo
random people.

It's looking at this point, with only 12 days left, as if we'll probably just
have them ship the cards and not get the chassis, since we can afford that.
However, it certainly stilld doesn't hurt to ask.  If somebody can pick this
up for us quickly, that woudl be wonderful.
rtg
response 86 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 06:25 UTC 1998

I may be able to talk a friend in the San Francisco area into picking up
and storing it for us.
  I drove out there and back this summer.  Driving solo, it was six days
driving each way.  Three drivers in a van, driving in shifts, can make it
in 40-44 hours, either way, that's a lot of time.  I suspect UPS would be
cheaper than gas money.  If the donor is willing to ship the cards, are
they willing to package the cabinet, if we pay the freight?
mary
response 87 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 10:53 UTC 1998

How much money will this cost Grex?  I'd like to see that posted
before any final decisions are made.
senna
response 88 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 13:43 UTC 1998

I was about to say... 40-44 hours (to my knowledge having driven to Colorado
and having good travel experience but not having been to california) sounds
about right.  That's four days for me.
aruba
response 89 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 15:43 UTC 1998

Re #87:  I don't think we can say, Mary, until UPS weighs it and packages it.
Maybe someone could stimate the shipping charges with or without the case?
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