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tod
response 65 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 04:14 UTC 2005

Perhaps the telnet is via dialup to ISP and thus sluggish
naftee
response 66 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 12:18 UTC 2005

thanks nharmon !
gull
response 67 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 13:53 UTC 2005

Re resp:64: She dislikes the lag caused by dialing in to an ISP and then
telnetting.
keesan
response 68 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 14:12 UTC 2005

Correct on 65 and 67.  We have 'free' service via WCC (Jim takes a course
there every year and gets connection for a year) which is erratic, disconnects
us after 62 minutes (or sometimes 10 minutes, no idea why), sometimes
downloads at 0 bytes/sec and frequently at 500 bytes/sec.  Grex is now more
predictable.  484-0512 seems to work perfectly (it downloaded at a speed
approaching 2K/sec) but 0513 has been disconnecting me frequently, and
downloads this past few days have been at 350-450 bytes/sec (variable
throughout the same short download).  So leave the first line alone and look
for noise or a bad modem on the second line.  Someone else reported earlier
that the first phone line was too noisy to dial from another part of Ann Arbor
but I think that got fixed.
marcvh
response 69 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 06:31 UTC 2005

/a filled up again, the sun rose, etc.
naftee
response 70 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 13:43 UTC 2005

lame people, etc.
eprom
response 71 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 16:15 UTC 2005

The cool people are all on /a
naftee
response 72 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 8 02:07 UTC 2005

It's cool to be gay, eprom !
glenda
response 73 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 00:38 UTC 2005

Re #68.  WCC connection hangs up at times because it is a part of Michnet.
Michnet connections are not always open-ended.  You get a token which gives
you a certain amount of connect time.  That amount of connect time is
dependent on the number of connections at the time.  To tell how much time
you get telnet to timeleft.dialin.mich.net 

The differences in download speeds is also dependent on how many people are
connected in via WCC.  WCC has a limited bandwidth and often throttles it back
to allow some usage to everyone.  I have a real bitch of a time with it when
I am trying to get a lab ready for a new class.  The only time I can really
get good through-put is during hours that I (technically) am not supposed to
be on campus.  It is a balancing act on whether I work odd times of night,
when I really shouldn't be there or I work more hours than budgeted to get
the job done.  Once I get a couple more servers and can do my image flashes
while off the backbone I will be a happy camper.
keesan
response 74 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 02:39 UTC 2005

This week (past few days, anyway), I have been getting speeds ranging from
0 to 500 bytes/sec on a 56K modem, after it claims to have connected at 28.8,
49,333, or 19,200.  I can't dial in directly to grex because neither of the
modems has been answering for at least two days (here or from antoher
address).  Right now I have been typing a whole line before I see any
characters on teh screen, then a few appear, sometimes half a line.  Is this
a WCC problem this week?  It has happened frequently the past month or two.
Once in a while I can get a download as fast at 2.4K (not right now, with a
19,200 connection).     Why is WCC so overcrowded in the summer?
keesan
response 75 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 02:55 UTC 2005

I just measured 0-100 bytes/sec, average 40, in the past few minutes.
(It is behaving a bit better now, I can type and see things within 2 seconds
right now).  Have the recent storms messed up the phone lines or knocked out
a computer at WCC ,or the grex modems?
keesan
response 76 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 03:20 UTC 2005

Just got disonnected (after telnetting to the site that told me I had
unlimited time) and dialied in again and was connected at 16,800- a new
record.  I cannot see anything until a few lines after typing it.  
Sometimes 15 sec later.
glenda
response 77 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 03:53 UTC 2005

I am not currently working regularly, taking most of the summer off.  So I
don't know much of what is currently going on.  I do know that they are doing
a lot of updates and reconfigs for the fall semester.  The banner system and
other parts of the network are being taken down frequently, especially from
Friday afternoon through Saturday to Sunday afternoon/evening.  Starting
Monday I will be working 40-48 hours a week for the next three weeks for
special "Train-the-Trainer" courses so may hear more.  I do know that we do
have a lot of beginning computer classes that run through Spring/Summer
semesters.

Michnet is also getting rid of some of their modem banks with the
corresponding usage problems.
keesan
response 78 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 9 13:43 UTC 2005

Things are much better Saturday morning (50,666 connection, no lag).  I will
be prepared for poor connections on weekends.  I hope someone can check out
the grex phonelines and modems soon.
tsty
response 79 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 08:24 UTC 2005

ayone wanna cogitate on #38 ... it's a real PITA.
dpc
response 80 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 14:24 UTC 2005

A few minutes ago I tried to dial in on 484-0512.  The System picked 
up, but I got no connection.  Then I tried the other line, 484-0513.  I 
got an endless ring.
keesan
response 81 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 14:55 UTC 2005

I get the same effect, it has been several days.  Gelinas, where are you?
bru
response 82 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 20:43 UTC 2005

why is every item in agora showing as new?
keesan
response 83 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 22:15 UTC 2005

Because /a got filled up while you were trying to write to it or access agora
and your participation file disappeared, same as mine did.  Type fixseen and
you will see only new responses starting from when you typed it.
keesan
response 84 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 20:43 UTC 2005

The 0512 modem has been hanging up on me every few minutes (while writing
emails).  I am back to telnetting (via a connection that freezes up every few
minutes but is behaving at the present).
drew
response 85 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 20:55 UTC 2005

484-0512 was ringing open as of around 3:30 PM.
keesan
response 86 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 21:58 UTC 2005

Vandal using up 99% of cpu time (top).  I am told 0513 rings without answering
- it used to have the working modem on it.  It has been a week, someone PLEASE
fix this problem.  
gelinas
response 87 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 03:42 UTC 2005

Gelinas is not as free as he would like to be.

I stopped by Provide.net this afternoon.  I put a phone on the two wall jacks:
the dial tone was clear.  I swapped the two cables, effectively swapping the
modems.  At the time, neither modem was in use.

Next time I'm there, I'll try putting a phone on the other end of our cables,
to see what that sounds like.

BTW, it looks like I swapped the modems around 15:00 on 14 Jul 2005.
mary
response 88 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 12:57 UTC 2005

Thanks, Joe.  Like you need a third job, eh?
naftee
response 89 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 14:18 UTC 2005

Thanks mary, eh!
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