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cross
response 65 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 14:19 UTC 2010

resp:63 I seriously think that you're the only one who wants to.
keesan
response 66 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 15:29 UTC 2010

Sounds like nobody is willing to try to make Pine print directly in linux.
I use pico or nano.  I have tried vi and some day will really learn it.
I also can't use fronttalk from Windows or even Puppy Linux (ssh or telnet)
unless I ssh from grex to sdf and back.
lar
response 67 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 15:36 UTC 2010

get a real system with a good connection and your problems are over.
rcurl
response 68 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 20:38 UTC 2010

I do recall printing directly from pine many computers, systems, and
connections ago. I can't recall how it is done. But since you can do anything
with Linux, you should be able to write a script to print from pine (I
couldn't, though). 
keesan
response 69 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 21:00 UTC 2010

Can anyone print with %?  I am not a linux programmer.  
tod
response 70 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 23:55 UTC 2010

I don't have any messages in my inbox to print so I can't test it
keesan
response 71 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 01:42 UTC 2010

You could email yourself a message.  Is there some way to print directly from
home directory?
tonster
response 72 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 03:28 UTC 2010

You could try setting your terminal to vt100 as well and seeing if that
worked.
keesan
response 73 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 13:50 UTC 2010

My terminal is set to vt100.  I also tried linux.  
tonster
response 74 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 15:07 UTC 2010

You said earlier your terminal type was set to linux, now you said it's
vt100.  Which is it?
keesan
response 75 of 115: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 17:07 UTC 2010

I have used both.  I messed up a file (.login?, .cshrc?) and copied over Jim's
fresh one which was set to vt100 recently.  Neither lets me print in linux.
Or use fronttalk from Windows or Puppy Linux telnet or ssh.  
glitch
response 76 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 3 05:08 UTC 2010

Long-time user and BBS lurker here...I started with Grex years ago when it
ran on Sun hardware -- my first experience with UNIX. I still use the dialins
now and then...I believe last time was from a 1200 baud modem connected to
an Apple IIe a few months ago (it's usually more often when I'm not off at
college). I'll be sad to see the dialins go, but if usage is that low, I agree
that they should be terminated. If nothing else, I can connect to my Linux
box via null modem cable and telnet/ssh to Grex.
mary
response 77 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 3 14:15 UTC 2010

Thanks for the feedback (and understanding), glitch.
lar
response 78 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 3 14:31 UTC 2010

<burp>
saeger
response 79 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 5 04:07 UTC 2010

The dialup lines and Lynx are the reasons I joined GREX.  It's the only way
I can connect to the internet on my 286.  I used this as my only computer for
years untill my living situation changed.  I curently connect via a laptop
with WIFI.  In a few months I will be moving once again and will return to
using my 286.  In my current living situation I cannot connect via dialup
because I am without a landline phone.  I would be VERY dissapointed to see
dialup access droped.  If the lines recive low useage I would recomend droping
one of the lines instead of both. Although I can recall times when I had to
dial the seconed number because the first was busy.  Dialup access is
important, it's what sets GREX apart from the other remaning BBS's.
rcurl
response 80 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 5 04:22 UTC 2010

Perhaps those wanting the dialup should get together and agree to pay for it?
What's wrong with using your laptop and scapping the 286?
keesan
response 81 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 5 14:17 UTC 2010

Probably saeger is moving some placed without free wifi access.
If it is some place in Michigan, get a free dialup account with dialinfree,
and outside of Michigan someone mentioned another free dialup service.
There are also cheap services.  vt.isp was $4/month last I knew.
Rane and I are among the last people to use grex dialup and I have not
done so for a few months now.  
kentn
response 82 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 5 18:16 UTC 2010

The problems we have with the dialup lines are: 1. not enough usage
and 2. not enough money coming in to pay for them.  If we still had dozens
of users with memberships to pay for them, it wouldn't be an issue to keep
them.  But right now, we're slowly but surely going broke, so dropping
this on-going cost is one thing we can do to slow down that slide.
As others have mentioned, there are alternatives for dial-in (and free
ones to boot).  If, by some odd chance, dial-up modems come back into
vogue and there is a great demand for the lines, we can discuss putting
them back in. But I rather doubt we will see that demand. 
 
If someone (or a group of someones) wants to pay the monthly cost of a
line, we could discuss that as an alternative to removal.
rcurl
response 83 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 5 20:39 UTC 2010

I haven't used dialup - anywhere - for years. I don't even have a modem that
will work with any of my computers. 
tod
response 84 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 5 20:48 UTC 2010

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=0c71b883aeab0711&hl=
en
kentn
response 85 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 6 03:31 UTC 2010

Re 83: same for me.  Well, I do have an external modem I could use, but I've
a got decent download speed from the cable company, so no need to use it.
glitch
response 86 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 7 20:20 UTC 2010

What would maintaining a single dialin cost per month? If it's low enough,
perhaps the few of us who do still use the dialins could pay to keep one of
them up.
slynne
response 87 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 7 20:32 UTC 2010

I don't think it is a lot. Maybe $20/mo per line. So all it would take
to keep one up is $240/year and if there is enough interest, I am sure
the board will consider keeping one around. If that $20/mo is in the
ball park, it would be in grex's best interest to keep a dial up line if
it brings in only four annual memberships. 

rcurl
response 88 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 7 21:12 UTC 2010

Shouldn't the "fee" for dialups be in addition to the general dues?
slynne
response 89 of 115: Mark Unseen   May 7 21:17 UTC 2010

It depends. If grex can get 4 or more additional memberships (i.e
memberships that grex would not otherwise get) because of a dial up line
then it would make sense to keep it. 

why? 12 mos x $20 = $240  and 4 x $60 = $240
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