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gull
response 65 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 14:51 UTC 2003

Re resp:53: Killing him will make him a martyr.  The worst punishment
for someone like him would be to lock him up in a cell for the rest of
his life, with no control over anyone.  Maybe give him some pictures of
his old palaces to look at.
gull
response 66 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 14:52 UTC 2003

Re resp:63: Well, of course.  Bush comes from Texas, where executions
are considered entertainment.
bru
response 67 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 14:52 UTC 2003

I am sure a number of families of our dead soldiers would like him dead as
well.
other
response 68 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 16:49 UTC 2003

Cut off his tongue and his hands and set him free.
tembpoib
response 69 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 16:50 UTC 2003

Re: 65. To be a martyr, you have to go out on a blaze of glory. Saddam will
more likely be seen as an embarassment for not fighting to the death.
scg
response 70 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 16:56 UTC 2003

Bush, or Hussein?

We don't like Hussein because he kills people he doesn't like, so we want to
kill him.  I certainly don't want the society I'm part of to function that
way.  Unlike Hussein, I have no desire to kill people, even people I don't
like.

He's under our control now.  He's not in a position to do any further damage.
We've certianly got enough other problems in Iraq, many of them his legacy
and many of them of our own making.  We should work on fixing those, not on
some mindless vengence.
twenex
response 71 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 17:00 UTC 2003

Any death penalty should be imposed after a fair trial, according to
the laws of a free and democratic Iraq, or according to international
law, depending on the venue. I oppose the death penalty, but on moral
grounds, not because I give a damn what happens to that... animal.
rcurl
response 72 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 17:43 UTC 2003

Re #67: keep some balance, bru. I suspect that a lot of Iraqi families
would like to see Bush dead for all their innocent relatives that were
killed in the invasion and aftermath - vastly more, too, than the number
of US soliders that have been killed. Don't you have any concern for the
innocent Iraqi civilians? 

twenex
response 73 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 17:56 UTC 2003

Bru and balance have nothing more in common than that the first
lettrer of each word is "b".
micklpkl
response 74 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 18:49 UTC 2003

resp:66 is quite offensive. I'm wondering how gull came to that conclusion.
twenex
response 75 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 19:39 UTC 2003

A joke, perhaps?
happyboy
response 76 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 19:45 UTC 2003

r74: i'm from there, originally.  he's right.
other
response 77 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 20:44 UTC 2003

(Parts of Austin may be excluded from that generalization, though 
the Statehouse is probably not among them.)
jmsaul
response 78 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 00:51 UTC 2003

Re #59:  Reread what I wrote.  Move your lips if you have to.
russ
response 79 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 03:25 UTC 2003

Re #47:  Okay, I stand corrected.  I try to listen to ATC but
I don't always have time to listen while it's on.  (Just because
it has biases doesn't mean it isn't informative, so I follow it.)

The BBC's interviewers have rather extreme biases, as you can
tell by their combative questioning of certain people and
kid-glove handling of others.
sj2
response 80 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 05:24 UTC 2003

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3329671.stm
=======================================================================
Iran 'owed billions for Saddam war'
 
The head of Iraq's Interim Governing Council says Iran should be paid 
reparations for the war that Saddam Hussein waged against it in the 
1980s. Abdul Aziz al-Hakim said further discussion was needed to 
decide what if anything Iraq would pay itself. 

Iran claims $100bn in reparations for the brutal eight-year war that 
claimed about one million lives. 

Mr Hakim's remarks may augur improving Iran-Iraq relations now Saddam 
Hussein is in custody. 

The prominent Iraqi is also the head of the Supreme Council for the 
Islamic Revolution in Iraq (Sciri) the most important Shiite Muslim 
party represented on the governing council. 
=======================================================================

Initially, I thought that the BBC got Iran-Iraq mixed up. Curiouser 
and curiouser! :)
 
 
twenex
response 81 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 10:51 UTC 2003

So, another blow for those who say the Arabs aren't even capable of
conciliation and making peace. yay and hooray.
willcome
response 82 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 11:45 UTC 2003

http://www.peoplecanchange.com/
gull
response 83 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 15:07 UTC 2003

Re resp:74: You don't remember the Presidential campaign?  Bush, with a
big smirk on his face, saying "They're going to be put to death."
Or the interview where, when Bush was asked about Karla Faye Tucker's
clemency plea, he imitated her saying "Please don't kill me" in a
mocking voice?  He obviously doesn't just favor the death penalty, he
finds it *funny*.
micklpkl
response 84 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 15:34 UTC 2003

Of course I remember the campaign, as well as the Shrubist 
gubernatorial campaigns before that. I sorta resent you implying that I 
must not, simply because I took offense to your blanket regional 
stereotyping.

What I'm not understanding is how you arrived at the generalisation 
that all Texans must find executions "entertaining" --- simply because 
one man appears to find it "funny?" 
gull
response 85 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 15:49 UTC 2003

Well, y'all voted for him...
micklpkl
response 86 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 15:51 UTC 2003

OK, then. I'm sorry for participating in this discussion.
scg
response 87 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 16:43 UTC 2003

Presumably, some Texans voted for him, and some didn't.

I've noticed in a lot of places that are known for having something special
about them that there seems to be a schism between the natives, who think
they shouldn't have to move to get what the rest of the country has, and those
who have moved there for the place's uniqueness, who want to keep it
different.  I have no idea how that applies to Texas and its ideas of frontier
"justice," but I'll note that the Bushes are an old line rich Connecticut
family who decided to play at being Texans.  Between the ranch and the obvious
joy over executions, our current President seems to have gotten more into it
than the rest of them.

My impression is also that those who move to Austin tend to be looking for
something significantly different than those who move to other parts of Texas.
twenex
response 88 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 16:48 UTC 2003

Whilst I wouldn't dream of implying that all Texans are bloodthirsty
revengeful fundamentalists, I oughtta point out that in a discussion
about Britains latest child-killer, in party, an esteemed Texan of our
acquaintance remarked that he's lucky he didn't commit the crime in
Texas, as "*we'd* all be sitting in bars cheering his execution"; or
words to that effect - note the use of the "we". Said esteemed Texan,
imho, is himself NOT a bloodthirsty revengeful fundamentalist.
micklpkl
response 89 of 140: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 17:00 UTC 2003

yes, and you claim that Americans don't have a sense of sarcasm.

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