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Grex > Helpers > #138: Grex System Problems - Winter 2004/2005 |  |
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aruba
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response 646 of 870:
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Feb 7 04:58 UTC 2005 |
I was able to dial in this morning, but melanief was not, and in the
afternoon neither of us could dial in. Trying now - the phone seems to be
answered, but there is no connection beep.
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keesan
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response 647 of 870:
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Feb 7 14:19 UTC 2005 |
No luck this morning for me (Monday). The Kiwanis visit is because a grexer
who runs the computer/electronic dept. there has some ideas about how better
to set up the modems with twisted-pair phone cable instead of 25' phone cords
to eliminate interference and resulting problems. He is totally dependent
upon grex dialins for internet access so has a strong interest in getting this
working soon. Joe, thanks again for all your time.
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gull
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response 648 of 870:
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Feb 7 15:49 UTC 2005 |
Twisted pair *is* better than flat cord, for avoiding interference.
CAT3 is often used for phone wiring.
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naftee
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response 649 of 870:
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Feb 7 19:39 UTC 2005 |
I keep getting this error:
login as: naftee
naftee@grex.org's password:
Server refused to allocate pty
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gelinas
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response 650 of 870:
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Feb 7 20:31 UTC 2005 |
I don't know why ptys aren't being allocated; we only had 26 users on.
I went with flat cord for now; 'twas available.
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tod
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response 651 of 870:
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Feb 7 21:07 UTC 2005 |
re #649
DITTO
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scholar
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response 652 of 870:
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Feb 7 21:11 UTC 2005 |
Re. 650: it's because people are breeding too quickly. :(
(also remember that people can use up ptys merely by telneting in. they don't
actually have to enter their username and password.)
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keesan
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response 653 of 870:
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Feb 8 00:27 UTC 2005 |
Thanks, I am dialed in now. Why did you need to turn off grex to plug in
the modems?
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aruba
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response 654 of 870:
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Feb 8 01:41 UTC 2005 |
I still can't dial in. The modem tries to connect - I get the beep and the
answering beep, then some transmission noise, and then a higher beep which
never stops. The connection is never completed.
Joe, are these two of the same modems that we were using before? Did you
change any settings?
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gull
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response 655 of 870:
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Feb 8 02:13 UTC 2005 |
I had that problem for a while at work. Some modems just couldn't dial
in to our modem -- they'd start the handshake and never complete it,
with the same sort of high-pitched beep. I switched to a more expensive
modem, one meant for dialin use, and that solved it. (Specifically, I
switched from a $50 US Robotics Sportster to a $300 US Robotics Courier.
Sportsters are strictly consumer-grade modems, and not very good ones
at that, as it turns out.)
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twenex
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response 656 of 870:
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Feb 8 02:25 UTC 2005 |
Re: #653. I assume because the modems in question are not plugged into serial
ports, but into the expansion ports at the back of the computer, which require
you to take the case off to get at, and turn the power off to avoid shorting
the motherboard. If this is the case, then frankly, I'm amazed that any recent
PCI modems have been found that aren't those accursed WinModem things, which,
as the name suggests, are crippled to only work with That Other OS.
This is done by moving most of the (already limited) intelligence of modems
into proprietary modem driver software written for Windows, and distributed
without source code. It serves Microsoft's purposes because it makes them hard
(but not impossible! 8D) to use with Linux, et al., and serves the purposes of
the manufacturers because it makes them cheaper to produce whilst slightly
raising profit margins.
Thankyou Microsoft, thankyou very bloody much.
I don't think.
(As an aside, reading, in Knoppix Hacks, about the limitations of the Windows
Recovery CD made me think of a brilliant strategy for punishing Microsoft for
their illegal behaviour towards other OS and application vendors: They should
simply be forced to use their own OS.)
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gull
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response 657 of 870:
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Feb 8 02:42 UTC 2005 |
Re resp:656: I'm pretty sure Grex is using external modems, unless
something has changed.
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twenex
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response 658 of 870:
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Feb 8 02:46 UTC 2005 |
Interesting. Perhaps then turning Grex off was just to be on the safe side.
Only Joe can enlighten us, really.
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scholar
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response 659 of 870:
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Feb 8 03:09 UTC 2005 |
http://www.safesideforjesus.org/
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richard
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response 660 of 870:
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Feb 8 03:21 UTC 2005 |
re #659...we seem to have a problem with certain users or user posting
fake url's. A user posting fake url's is purposely posting bad
information on the system. Which in turn cause people who come here
to see these links and hit on them. If grex is full of posts with bad
url links, it makes grex itself look bad. IMO staff does not need to
be condoning such activity.
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gelinas
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response 661 of 870:
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Feb 8 03:26 UTC 2005 |
Primarily, I turned grex off because I wanted to plug it into the powerstrip
I have the modems plugged into. When I went in on Saturday, I plugged the
powerstrip in to the UPS. It just made sense to me to have everything plugged
into the powerstrip.
These are the GVC external modems we were using at the Pumpkin.
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scholar
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response 662 of 870:
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Feb 8 03:27 UTC 2005 |
if this is the case, we must first as ourselves, why are people hitting on
links instead of on buns?
a neoclassical formulation would b e: because they're women!
but this was busted up by the implicationf of implied homosexuality in the
work of anciebnt greek scholars combined with the people who supported "greek
life".
so, the next formulation was: because they'er women and abnormal men!
this held true until the famous french midget jaques derrida came along and
DECONSTRUCTED the idea of gender, positing that women were the euqal and
opposite reaction (i.e. social newtonianism) and that this allowed us to bust
up the gender binary,
and come up with he current forulation: some PEOPLE like hitting on lin ks,
some like hitting on buns, some don't like hitting on either, and some like
hitting on both.
needless to say, richard shoulod be ashamed of his
discriminatory/sexist/genderbinaryist views of hitting on links.
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twenex
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response 663 of 870:
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Feb 8 03:29 UTC 2005 |
What?!
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richard
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response 664 of 870:
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Feb 8 03:42 UTC 2005 |
deliberately posting a bad link on grex on purpose should be seen as
just as bad as deliberately posting bad code on grex. Or deliberately
posting any sort of information known beforehand to be bad on grex.
It is corrupting the quality of the bbs. Grex should pride itself on
the quality of its posts, and that means staff taking action when it
sees users deliberately and purposely posting bad information
repeatedly.
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aruba
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response 665 of 870:
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Feb 8 03:44 UTC 2005 |
Re #661 - something must have changed, because I could connect to the
Pumpkin but I can't connect to Grex in its new home. Nothing's changed on
my end except the phone number I'm dialing. It does sound like there's a
little bit of line noise, but I wouldn't think that'd be enough to cause a
problem.
BTW Joe - do these lines hunt? I.e., if I dial 0512, and it's busy, will
I be forwarded to 0513?
Also, the !phones command needs to be updated.
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gelinas
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response 666 of 870:
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Feb 8 04:11 UTC 2005 |
The 'phone company tells me they hunt.
The phones script is updated.
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scholar
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response 667 of 870:
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Feb 8 04:12 UTC 2005 |
http://www.richardscrusade.org/
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glenda
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response 668 of 870:
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Feb 8 04:34 UTC 2005 |
Re #664: Richard, don't feed the troll!
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keesan
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response 669 of 870:
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Feb 8 05:00 UTC 2005 |
I tried just now and could not connect via dialing. I might have been using
a different computer earlier when I connected. I have mostly USR Sportsters
flashed from x2 to v90. This one is a 28.8K.
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scott
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response 670 of 870:
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Feb 8 08:30 UTC 2005 |
When I get back I could try to dig up my old Newton-based modem configuration.
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