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tod
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response 64 of 526:
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Feb 16 18:18 UTC 2006 |
re #62 slipped
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nharmon
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response 65 of 526:
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Feb 16 18:42 UTC 2006 |
Here is a pretty good article on the subject:
http://www.devbio.com/article.php?id=162
After reading this, I like both the embryological view and neurological
view on when life begins.
Embryological View:
"[T]he embryological view states that human life originates not at
fertilization but rather at gastrulation. Human embryos are capable of
splitting into identical twins as late as 12 days after fertilization
resulting in the development of separate individuals with unique
personalities[...] Therefore, properties governing individuality are not
set until after gastrulation."
Neurological View:
"Contemporary American (and Japanese) society defines death as the loss
of the pattern produced by a cerebral electroencephalogram (EEG). If
life and death are based upon the same standard of measurement, then the
beginning of human life should be recognized as the time when a fetus
acquires a recognizable EEG pattern. This acquisition occurs
approximately 24- 27 weeks after the conception of the fetus and is the
basis for the neurological view of the beginning of human life."
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happyboy
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response 66 of 526:
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Feb 16 18:46 UTC 2006 |
yawn. how's your uterus these days, nate?
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nharmon
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response 67 of 526:
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Feb 16 19:00 UTC 2006 |
Slightly left, happyboy, get that sand out of your vagina yet?
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albaugh
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response 68 of 526:
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Feb 16 19:16 UTC 2006 |
"emergency contraception" - uh-huh
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tod
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response 69 of 526:
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Feb 16 19:34 UTC 2006 |
Human Life begins when you hear the baby cry and you cut the cord.
Everything prior to that is wishful thinking.
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bru
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response 70 of 526:
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Feb 16 19:37 UTC 2006 |
That is YOUR interpretation todd, and it is wrong.
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nharmon
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response 71 of 526:
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Feb 16 19:38 UTC 2006 |
"Wishful thinking" backed up by scientific evidence?
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richard
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response 72 of 526:
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Feb 16 21:10 UTC 2006 |
re #50 there are pills that make a miscarriage highly likely, but do not
"guarantee" it. They did an ER episode a couple weeks ago where a catholic
doctor has a catholic patient who has been raped and is pregnant, and abortion
isnt acceptable. He ends up prescribing the drug that temporarily widens the
vagins and makes a miscarriage more likely.
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tod
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response 73 of 526:
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Feb 16 21:34 UTC 2006 |
re #70
The only thing wrong is that men feel any entitlement to decisions about
another person's body: Namely women
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edina
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response 74 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:03 UTC 2006 |
Re 72 Oh for God's sake....you're quoting "ER"??? Way to make a plausible
argument.
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bru
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response 75 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:13 UTC 2006 |
no, if a child is viable at 6 months, it must be recognized as a life all its
own.
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marcvh
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response 76 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:14 UTC 2006 |
And on Boston Legal, there was a case where a rape victim was brought
into a Catholic hopsital, they refused emergency contraception, and so
they were sued for two point something million dollars. Also William
Shatner tried to do magic tricks.
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nharmon
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response 77 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:17 UTC 2006 |
On The Shield there was this guy who last season moved to Farmington
from Texas, and Texas told the cops he was suspected in a lot of serial
killings, but nobody could tie him to anything. Apparently next week
they catch him for killing a lady that looks like one of the LAPD
detectives who badgered him about his missing sister this week.
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edina
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response 78 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:31 UTC 2006 |
Re 75 Viable by what standards? Yours? A doctor's? With or without
medical intervention? Lots of kids out there being born that 30 years ago
wouldn't have stood a chance.
My personal belief is that if a woman delivers a baby at 6 months, it's
viable.
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richard
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response 79 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:40 UTC 2006 |
it was a real drug they were using on E.R., I'll think of the name of it
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edina
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response 80 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:44 UTC 2006 |
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happyboy
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response 81 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:47 UTC 2006 |
my vagina is FINE nannystate-nate!
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edina
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response 82 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:48 UTC 2006 |
Or, as I was saying, COME ON!! Quoting a TV show isn't the way to make a
plausible argument.
I mean, we have a differing approach on BCP, Richard. I think they should
be prescribed - you don't. I think they bear monitoring by a dr. or nurse
practitioner, as to the risks involved. You feel that they are no more
harmful than aspirin. Ok, fair enough. I also like that you have to see a
dr., as they are generally prescribed at the conclusion of a gynecological
exam. I think trackning a woman's gynecological health is a good thing.
YMMV.
As for emergency contraception being available OTC - if you don't think it
will be abused, you are out of your mind.
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tod
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response 83 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:49 UTC 2006 |
re #75
Its recognized as alive when it comes out and breaths. That's why you get
a birth certificate: To show you are alive
Like I said, wishful thinking anytime before actual breaths are taken.
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edina
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response 84 of 526:
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Feb 16 22:49 UTC 2006 |
My long-haired brethren from WA slipped...
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happyboy
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response 85 of 526:
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Feb 16 23:14 UTC 2006 |
/looks at bottom of shoe
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tod
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response 86 of 526:
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Feb 16 23:18 UTC 2006 |
I don't have time to explain right now. -Jack Bauer
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richard
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response 87 of 526:
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Feb 17 00:42 UTC 2006 |
re #82 edina, if bcp's were over the counter, they wouldn't be NEARLY
as abused as other drugs that ARE available over the counter-- such as
alcohol for one. edina you must favor prohibition since she doesn't
think that any drug that would be widely abused should be available
over the counter.
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tod
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response 88 of 526:
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Feb 17 00:57 UTC 2006 |
You think viagra should be over the counter, too?
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