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aruba
response 64 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 22:27 UTC 2003

I see, that makes sense.  Thanks.  How much are we talking for a full-duplex
phone?
mary
response 65 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 23:22 UTC 2003

Playcom seems to specialize in conferencing telephones.  They run 
from about $265 to, way up there.

Here's the least expensive one I found:

http://www.buy.com/retail/electronics/product.asp?
loc=514&sku=10084336
tod
response 66 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 00:10 UTC 2003

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aruba
response 67 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 00:31 UTC 2003

Well, that's a lot of money.

Tod: see previous responses.
tod
response 68 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 01:11 UTC 2003

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gelinas
response 69 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 01:22 UTC 2003

It could be two people, and if someone in the room is talking, the people on
the far end can't be heard to ask for the floor.
mynxcat
response 70 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 01:30 UTC 2003

You may need to start the practice of actually asking the person on the phone
if he has anything to say. I know it seems a little clunky...
tod
response 71 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 01:30 UTC 2003

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scg
response 72 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 08:02 UTC 2003

The Polycom phones are the really serious conference room phones, which are
quite nice, but cost quite a lot.  I think the two line, full duplex, ATT
speakerphone I have on my desk was somewhere under $100 three years ago, so
I assume there are still lower end phones that would work.

I've seen a speakerphone attachment that plugs into a cell phone, which seems
to work ok.  That might be a reasonable option.  Also, there are some nice
VOIP "soft phones" that will run on a PC and should be able to link up with
the PSTN through some gateway service, which should perform nicely when paired
with good speakers and a good microphone (in other words, not the built in
microphone on the notebook it's running on).

It seems to me you've got three scenarios to consider here; one in which you
have just one remote board member, another in which you have two remote board
members, and a third in which you have three or more.  In the one remote
member scenario, all you need is a point to point connection of some sort,
which is a standard phone call and therefore easy.  Two remote board members
can probably be handled through "three way calling," although that should be
handled in a phone switch rather than inside somebody's phone so the two
remote people can hear eachother clearly.  The scenario in which there are
many remote board members probably requires a real conference bridge of some
sort.  There are lots of companies that sell this service, although it may
not be all that cheap.  There are also a lot of corporate phone switches that
include a system called Meeting Place, which does this quite well.  If
somebody reading this works for a company with a Meeting Place system, and
would be willing to donate some off hours use of it, that would be quite
useful.
mary
response 73 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 12:26 UTC 2003

Interesting about the cell phone speakerphone you've seen.  The only one
I've been able to locate that isn't designed to be useful outside a car
without jumping through hoops is specific for Motorola phones.

I think our first step should be an inexpensive or free regular
speakerphone. See how that goes and then fine tune the connection.

gelinas
response 74 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 12:52 UTC 2003

CCM Clip N Go (http://www.1800mobiles.com/clipngo.html) works with a
variety of Motorola and Nokia telephones.  It apparently includes both a
cigarette-lighter adaptor and a travel (AC?) adaptor.  It's listed at $25.99.
scg
response 75 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 20:44 UTC 2003

That Clip N Go thing doesnt' look quite like the one I saw, but claims to be
full duplex, which has the potential to make it quite usable.
aruba
response 76 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 19:01 UTC 2003

I hit a snag when trying to transfer cyberspace.org from Network Solutions
to Dotster.  Apparently Dotster now requires that one obtain an "AUTH-CODE"
for .org domains.  (Most things I found on the net say this is only require
for .biz and .info domains, so this must be a new development or a quirk
about Dotster.)  The AUTH-CODE has to come from our current registrar, the
evil Network Solutions/Verisign.  Getting it apparently requires sending a
fax to their number in Virginia, requesting that they send the code via
email.  I'll send the fax out - I'm sure they're in a really big hurry to
answer requests like this, though.  So who knows if we'll get the info back
in time to switch to Dotster before January 14th (when our domain is up). 
If it gets too close, I think we should just renew with Verisign.  (Which is
what they want, of course, but the whole business is not worth risking our
domain name over.)
other
response 77 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 20:31 UTC 2003

Did you have a direct telephone conversation with a representative 
of Dotster to confirm the details of this requirement and explore 
alternatives?

If so, then I would recommend making this as much as is possible a 
transaction conducted with Verisign by telephone, and inform them on 
each occasion that your conversations will be recorded, and in all 
other ways you should document fully the steps in this process in 
order that we can show Verisign that we will win the lawsuit that 
will be filed if they screw this up.  

I have an answering machine which can be used to record 
conversations, and you can use it if you like, or I can make the 
telephone calls if you're more comfortable with that.
aruba
response 78 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 21:02 UTC 2003

If you'd like to handle this, Eric, you're more than welcome to.
tod
response 79 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 21:07 UTC 2003

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scg
response 80 of 82: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 07:32 UTC 2003

The Verisign system is quite automated, and you're probably better off using
it than trying to go around it by talking to humans.  Talking to humans does
make sense if the automated system doesn't deliver in a reasonable amount of
time (and since it's automated, reasonable would be hours at worst, not days).
styles
response 81 of 82: Mark Unseen   Mar 30 05:28 UTC 2004

annoying
jesuit
response 82 of 82: Mark Unseen   May 17 02:14 UTC 2006

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