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response 64 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 18:29 UTC 1998

It is Not to be redundant or anything, but I'd like to explore some of the
>fringes of "harmful to children"...I mean, from what I read, you could say
>pracitcally anything would be harmful to children.  What about those women
>who had that site about breast cancer that was shut down by AOL because they
>used the word "breast"?  WOuldn't sex ed be outlawed on line for this?
>(there are those who say that it still is, and would like it removed from
>public schools)  Why, this very item would probably be harmful to children
>by the oppinions of some!  Say goodbye to cites for queers and polygamists
>(even some mormon sites!), and other non-christian non-vanilla sites, like
>say the black panthers, the DSA, (might inspire little kiddies to riot, and
>we wouldn't want them to get that dangerous tear gas in their little eyes,
>now would we?   We wouldn't want children to learn too much or think for them
selves.  Just look at the way public education is designed, for passive little
>*obedient* citizens.  scg, I don't know if you remember public school or not,
>but thinking is a very big no-no.  You get a pinkslip for it. ;-)
>Now, knowing all that....I'm sure everyone can guess how I feel on the
issues.
>If you can ride topless in the NY subway, why not view breasts on the
>internet?  (Can see it now:  no photos of the NY subway on the internet! 
too
>dangerous!)  Before you know it, they are targeting sites on breast feeding
>and info sites on STDs.  Most info sites about biology (which has *lots* of
>sex in it, btw) will be banned.   Let's talk creationism, eh?  (oh yeah, we
>can't talk about that either....Adam and Eve were once naked)
>HOw about naturists, or the other word for them, NUDISTS?  Can't
>teach junior how to avoid contracting AIDS on the internet cuz they may learn
>about sex instead.  Even sites talking about what common household items are
>poisonous would be bad news cuz junior may get ideas about drinking bleach.
>This may *sound* like paranoia (and to some degree it is:  free-associating
>to make a point)  but I can see it happen, considering the wonderous talent
>the current administration has for streaching and bending the law like silly
>puddy forfill their party line.  This response shows you just how far *I*
>trust the government. <rant=OFF>
shf
response 65 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 20:25 UTC 1998

ow
wait til *you* have kids bucko
scott
response 66 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 00:54 UTC 1998

I'd love to see hard-core right wing religious sites nailed under twhis
legislation.  As far as I'm concerned, these zealots are *very* harmful to
children.
mta
response 67 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 15:12 UTC 1998

Not all of us change our minds about censorship when we have kids.
mary
response 68 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 15:52 UTC 1998

One of the best reasons for fighting censorship *is my child*.
I don't want to see his rights or choices degraded.
shf
response 69 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 19:51 UTC 1998

time will tell but I still have the darndest time figuring out how letting
my kids see all *that* is going to help them.
mcnally
response 70 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 20:30 UTC 1998

  At some point in their lives your children are going to have to learn
  to make choices; you can't be there for them forever.  If you choose
  everything they get to see, hear, or think until they're eighteen
  there's a mighty good chance they won't be prepared to make the right
  choices after society says you no longer get to do it for them.

  I doubt you really want to totally control your children's world but
  the principle still holds.  The more you rely on "because I told you so"
  the less prepared they'll be to live their lives when you're no longer
  there telling them..  If you give them the right reasons to choose
  responsibly and let them make their choices when they are mature enough
  to do so, you'll be doing them a favor that will last the rest of their
  lives.
albaugh
response 71 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 21:37 UTC 1998

Oh, mcnally, puh-leeze!  Give people more credit...
shf
response 72 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 01:54 UTC 1998

and I've had this conversation enough times t orealize I'm not preaching to
the choir here.  It eats up too much time.  Have fun kidz.
mcnally
response 73 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 02:27 UTC 1998

 re #71:  "Oh albaugh, puh-leeze!  Give kids more credit!"
 
 I certainly agree that parents should be able to (and should take the
 time to) influence what their younger kids are exposed to until those
 kids are old enough to understand the issues but if that's the goal of
 this legislation it's going about it in a way that is going to trample
 over all sorts of people who aren't interested in the slightest in what
 shf does or doesn't allow his kids to see.  If he wants to make decisions
 about what's appropriate for them to view, that's an issue between him
 and his kids, not between him and everyone else on the Internet.
bru
response 74 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 17:00 UTC 1998

Personally, I would be more in favor of requireing all the sex sites to have
the word .sex at the end of their address.  (make that porn sirtes.)  Then
we would know where these people and tah their porn were.

At this point, so many of them disguise what they really are under false names
and by linking them to noneporn sites..
mcnally
response 75 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 17:19 UTC 1998

I agree that many of the porn sites are sleazy and attempt to 
attract viewers by deliberately deceptive measures.

However, this legislation affects more than just straightforward
for-profit porn sites.
rcurl
response 76 of 78: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 19:41 UTC 1998

There would not be agreement on which sites are .sex and which are not.
I presume any site concerning sex medically, pop-medically, or
pseudo-medically, or..??.. would not be .sex?
bru
response 77 of 78: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 09:00 UTC 1998

probably not.  medical facilities and educational institutions usually fall
under .org or .edu anyway
 
remmers
response 78 of 78: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 14:08 UTC 1998

So under this bill, would it be legal for a site run by a non-profit to
publicly post sexually explicit material and make it freely available to
all regardless of age?
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