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Grex > Helpers > #138: Grex System Problems - Winter 2004/2005 |  |
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keesan
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response 633 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:38 UTC 2005 |
Why am I logged in from -? I think it used to be 'groovy'. Does this reflect
the change from a computer to a serial port?
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keesan
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response 634 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:38 UTC 2005 |
632 slipped in. Joe, let us know about modem cables. I have a long and a
short ready for you (F/M).
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gelinas
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response 635 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:57 UTC 2005 |
Yes, "-" reflects the absence of the terminal server.
I'll let you know, one or the other, later tonight, Sindi.
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gelinas
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response 636 of 870:
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Feb 6 04:03 UTC 2005 |
I'd like to make sure that someone who is NOT a member can't ssh out, too.
(I expect that they can't.)
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richard
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response 637 of 870:
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Feb 6 05:45 UTC 2005 |
getting an error message that says
"write failed, file system is full" uh oh
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richard
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response 638 of 870:
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Feb 6 05:46 UTC 2005 |
however I got that error in party, if the file system really is full, why can
I still post on agora?
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charcat
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response 639 of 870:
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Feb 6 06:02 UTC 2005 |
ditto #637
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naftee
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response 640 of 870:
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Feb 6 08:41 UTC 2005 |
ditto #charcat's mom
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remmers
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response 641 of 870:
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Feb 6 15:03 UTC 2005 |
Re #638: When it says "file system", think "disk partition". Grex's
disks are multi-partitioned. Party and bbs use different partitions for
writing data.
None of the partitions are full now, so someone must've taken care of
the problem.
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keesan
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response 642 of 870:
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Feb 6 15:18 UTC 2005 |
I just tried to dial in again and got a long wait and a NO CARRIER.
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gelinas
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response 643 of 870:
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Feb 6 15:55 UTC 2005 |
With only one modem on a two-line hunt group, unanswered calls aren't too
surprising. We can also expect busy signals the first week of dial-in
access: A lot of demand has been dammed up; the flood won't be pleasant. ;/
But neither will (should) it be long. :)
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keesan
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response 644 of 870:
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Feb 7 01:44 UTC 2005 |
I have not been able to dial grex since 10 pm last night. I just checked,
nobody else is dialed in. It dials, makes some noises, then dials again, then
disconnects. Has anyone else dialed in today? I tried at least 5 times.
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gelinas
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response 645 of 870:
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Feb 7 03:23 UTC 2005 |
Yeah, looks liek there's a problem. I'll check on it tomorrow, after I visit
Kiwanis.
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aruba
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response 646 of 870:
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Feb 7 04:58 UTC 2005 |
I was able to dial in this morning, but melanief was not, and in the
afternoon neither of us could dial in. Trying now - the phone seems to be
answered, but there is no connection beep.
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keesan
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response 647 of 870:
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Feb 7 14:19 UTC 2005 |
No luck this morning for me (Monday). The Kiwanis visit is because a grexer
who runs the computer/electronic dept. there has some ideas about how better
to set up the modems with twisted-pair phone cable instead of 25' phone cords
to eliminate interference and resulting problems. He is totally dependent
upon grex dialins for internet access so has a strong interest in getting this
working soon. Joe, thanks again for all your time.
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gull
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response 648 of 870:
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Feb 7 15:49 UTC 2005 |
Twisted pair *is* better than flat cord, for avoiding interference.
CAT3 is often used for phone wiring.
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naftee
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response 649 of 870:
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Feb 7 19:39 UTC 2005 |
I keep getting this error:
login as: naftee
naftee@grex.org's password:
Server refused to allocate pty
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gelinas
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response 650 of 870:
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Feb 7 20:31 UTC 2005 |
I don't know why ptys aren't being allocated; we only had 26 users on.
I went with flat cord for now; 'twas available.
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tod
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response 651 of 870:
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Feb 7 21:07 UTC 2005 |
re #649
DITTO
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scholar
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response 652 of 870:
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Feb 7 21:11 UTC 2005 |
Re. 650: it's because people are breeding too quickly. :(
(also remember that people can use up ptys merely by telneting in. they don't
actually have to enter their username and password.)
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keesan
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response 653 of 870:
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Feb 8 00:27 UTC 2005 |
Thanks, I am dialed in now. Why did you need to turn off grex to plug in
the modems?
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aruba
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response 654 of 870:
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Feb 8 01:41 UTC 2005 |
I still can't dial in. The modem tries to connect - I get the beep and the
answering beep, then some transmission noise, and then a higher beep which
never stops. The connection is never completed.
Joe, are these two of the same modems that we were using before? Did you
change any settings?
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gull
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response 655 of 870:
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Feb 8 02:13 UTC 2005 |
I had that problem for a while at work. Some modems just couldn't dial
in to our modem -- they'd start the handshake and never complete it,
with the same sort of high-pitched beep. I switched to a more expensive
modem, one meant for dialin use, and that solved it. (Specifically, I
switched from a $50 US Robotics Sportster to a $300 US Robotics Courier.
Sportsters are strictly consumer-grade modems, and not very good ones
at that, as it turns out.)
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twenex
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response 656 of 870:
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Feb 8 02:25 UTC 2005 |
Re: #653. I assume because the modems in question are not plugged into serial
ports, but into the expansion ports at the back of the computer, which require
you to take the case off to get at, and turn the power off to avoid shorting
the motherboard. If this is the case, then frankly, I'm amazed that any recent
PCI modems have been found that aren't those accursed WinModem things, which,
as the name suggests, are crippled to only work with That Other OS.
This is done by moving most of the (already limited) intelligence of modems
into proprietary modem driver software written for Windows, and distributed
without source code. It serves Microsoft's purposes because it makes them hard
(but not impossible! 8D) to use with Linux, et al., and serves the purposes of
the manufacturers because it makes them cheaper to produce whilst slightly
raising profit margins.
Thankyou Microsoft, thankyou very bloody much.
I don't think.
(As an aside, reading, in Knoppix Hacks, about the limitations of the Windows
Recovery CD made me think of a brilliant strategy for punishing Microsoft for
their illegal behaviour towards other OS and application vendors: They should
simply be forced to use their own OS.)
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gull
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response 657 of 870:
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Feb 8 02:42 UTC 2005 |
Re resp:656: I'm pretty sure Grex is using external modems, unless
something has changed.
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