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krj
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response 62 of 102:
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Feb 15 01:49 UTC 2004 |
A couple of stories suggest the music wars are evolving along lines
similar to the war on drugs:
LA Times reports that students are learning to keep their heads down,
not share files for others to download, and are then just downloading
all they want:
Title: "So Not Intimidated"
http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-ca-day15feb15,1,1149916.story?
coll=la-home-style
Meanwhile, from the University of Maryland student paper:
"A harassment complaint was filed Wednesday to protect the student
who reported popular file-sharing hub, Direct Connect to authorities
and set of a wave of student anger, University Police officials
confirmed yesterday."
http://www.inform.umd.edu/News/Diamondback/archives/2004/02/13/news3.html
((Can you say "narc," boys and girls?))
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mcnally
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response 63 of 102:
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Feb 15 04:57 UTC 2004 |
The labels and the RIAA may, in the end, be able to stop the downloading
services and the filesharing networks. And maybe that will be enough,
from their standpoint. I doubt they'll ever be able to stop friends from
sharing with friends, however..
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gull
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response 64 of 102:
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Feb 15 05:04 UTC 2004 |
They lost that battle when they were unable to stop the sale of blank
cassette tapes. I don't think they see it as hurting their business
that much, now. It's certainly not as much of a threat as the
widespread copying that systems lika Kazaa facilitate.
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mcnally
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response 65 of 102:
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Feb 15 08:17 UTC 2004 |
The digital-to-digital copying technology available to consumers
nowadays, though, is substantially less limiting than the analog-to-
analog copies from the cassette tape ere, as anyone who ever listened
to a hissy nth-generation copy can tell you.
Unfortunately for the record companies, even if they succeed in making
the digital original uncopy-able, they'll never again be protected by
multi-generation quality loss, since any first generation analog rip
will be converted to digital and distributed digitally thereafter without
further loss.
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gull
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response 66 of 102:
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Feb 15 16:37 UTC 2004 |
That's true, but I'm not sure how great the impact of that really is.
Most people don't seem to care that much about quality. Most of my
friends say they can't tell the difference between good stereo speakers
and $5 computer speakers, for example.
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krj
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response 67 of 102:
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Feb 19 15:12 UTC 2004 |
We never even mentioned the February round of lawsuits from the RIAA
against suspected "John Doe" defendants for sharing music files.
Another 531 lawsuits this month; a curious number, given that there
were 532 suits in January. I'm not going to dredge around for a link;
use news.google.com and search for "RIAA" if you want a citation.
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goose
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response 68 of 102:
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Feb 19 20:39 UTC 2004 |
RIAA Countersued Under Racketeering Laws
Posted by simoniker on Wednesday February 18, @10:17PM
from the prohibition-is-on dept.
Negadin writes "According to CNET News, a New Jersey woman, one of the
hundreds of people accused of copyright infringement by the Recording Industry
Association of America, has countersued the big record labels, charging them
with extortion and violations of the federal antiracketeering act." The
woman's attornies are arguing that "...by suing file-swappers for copyright
infringement, and then offering to settle instead of pursuing a case where
liability could reach into the hundreds of thousands of dollars, the RIAA is
violating the same laws that are more typically applied to gangsters and
organized crime."
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/19/0124218&mode=nested
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mcnally
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response 69 of 102:
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Feb 19 20:50 UTC 2004 |
I doubt the courts will agree with her reasoning but I wish her
lots of luck..
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tod
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response 70 of 102:
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Feb 19 22:07 UTC 2004 |
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krj
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response 71 of 102:
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Feb 20 01:38 UTC 2004 |
This news story reports sketchy rumors and whatnot that Napster might not be
doing so well. Executives are jumping ship, and record company sources say
Napster 2.0 is only selling about 1/4 as many tracks as Apple iTunes.
Staff are being laid off.
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/7988684.htm
"Smiles Fade At Napster"
The article mentions the pre-paid Napster download cards you can now buy --
perhaps for your kid who doesn't have a credit card -- and I did see those for
sale at a Kroger's grocery store in Lansing.
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twinkie
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response 72 of 102:
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Feb 20 18:42 UTC 2004 |
Target sells them, as well.
Although, Target also sells prepaid iTunes cards.
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gelinas
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response 73 of 102:
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Feb 21 01:27 UTC 2004 |
(The Feds have used RICO against anti-arbortion groups; make sense folks would
try it against RIAA. I'd guess anti-trust action will be next.)
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gull
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response 74 of 102:
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Feb 21 04:41 UTC 2004 |
I think anti-trust action was already tried, and failed.
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krj
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response 75 of 102:
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Feb 21 22:48 UTC 2004 |
The trial court decision holds that popular DVD copying software
from 321 Studios is illegal, and must be withdrawn from market.
While IANAL, the decision seems to leave little room for any other
DVD copying product to legally exist, unless the movie studios
approve of it.
http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5162749.html?tag=nefd_lede
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ryan
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response 76 of 102:
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Feb 22 00:15 UTC 2004 |
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mcnally
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response 77 of 102:
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Feb 22 01:35 UTC 2004 |
CD-burning software may not be affected, depending on which law(s)
the courts based their decision on. Because the content on DVDs
is encrypted, they're afforded extra protection.
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ryan
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response 78 of 102:
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Feb 22 16:45 UTC 2004 |
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gull
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response 79 of 102:
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Feb 22 18:10 UTC 2004 |
The fact that the software is illegal certainly doesn't mean it's going
to disappear from p2p networks. But you won't see it sold retail
anymore.
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ryan
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response 80 of 102:
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Feb 22 19:20 UTC 2004 |
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gull
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response 81 of 102:
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Feb 23 04:57 UTC 2004 |
I know someone who's been using something similar to make off-site
backups of most of Blockbuster's DVDs. ;>
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ryan
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response 82 of 102:
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Feb 23 13:11 UTC 2004 |
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krj
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response 83 of 102:
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Feb 26 14:54 UTC 2004 |
For Ann Arbor area readers: Jim Leonard, the former owner of the
SKR Classical CD shop, has a long essay in the March issue of the
Observer about the wipeout of CD retailing in Ann Arbor.
I have not had a chance to see if this is in the online edition.
Leonard suggests that besides the well known issues of authorized
Internet sales and unauthorized file sharing, something may have
shifted in the culture; he discusses a number of fanatical CD
collectors who have drastically cut back shopping and moved on to
other parts of their lives.
Leonard also writes that Steve Bergman is not getting a salary from
his Schoolkids-in-the-Basement store.
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orinoco
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response 84 of 102:
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Feb 26 18:22 UTC 2004 |
> he discusses a number of fanatical CD collectors who have drastically
> cut back shopping and moved on to other parts of their lives
...and the next generation of fanatical CD collectors? I know a few.
They buy everything online.
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gull
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response 85 of 102:
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Feb 26 20:24 UTC 2004 |
I buy CDs exclusively online now. Retail stores almost never have what
I want, so it's not worth the nuisance of driving around trying to find
one that does.
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dbratman
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response 86 of 102:
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Feb 27 00:36 UTC 2004 |
I like to go to retail stores because they're easier to browse than
online stores. If I don't already know what I want, and just want to
see what's available, no service that Amazon has to offer does the job
for me.
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