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anderyn
response 62 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 15:20 UTC 2002

What's it about Ginger that bugs you so much, mynxcat? Seems like a lot of
furor over a name that's non-standard, certainly, but not outre.
mynxcat
response 63 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 15:23 UTC 2002

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jazz
response 64 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 15:26 UTC 2002

        Plant names aren't uncommon at all for women.  Ginger, Ivy, Heather,
Rose, etc.
mynxcat
response 65 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 15:30 UTC 2002

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lelande
response 66 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 19:00 UTC 2002

X-men ended too early.
gelinas
response 67 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 19:06 UTC 2002

(Lots of us are *very* literate.  Right off hand, I cannot think of any use
of "a" that sounds like /u/ in English.  Folks who see your name written
before they hear it pronounced are at a definite disadvantage.  The only ones
likely to get it right consistently are those who learned it by hearing, and
used it often, long before they saw it in writing.)
slynne
response 68 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 19:10 UTC 2002

That is really funny. I mean it isnt ingrained into my head as a cat's 
name and my cat's name *is* Ginger. heh. 
gull
response 69 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 19:16 UTC 2002

Ginger isn't that bad.  I mean, considering people have named their kids
things like Scout and Moon Unit and Crickett.
anderyn
response 70 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 19:28 UTC 2002

Nope, I never got that Ginger was strictly a cat's name, either. (Mittens,
on the other hand, or Socks. THOSE are strictly cat names. Well, maybe dog
names, too.) It's not a common female name, but who am I to talk? I'm *Twila*,
and I named my daughter *Rhiannon*... So I am used to a certain amount of
non-mainstream in my female names. What really bugs me is the whole raft of
non-standardly spelled and/or formerly male names that are very common
nowadays for girls. Ginger would seem old-fashioned in contrast. And quite
refreshing.
mynxcat
response 71 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 19:30 UTC 2002

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gelinas
response 72 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 21:49 UTC 2002

No, you misunderstood what I meant:  As a literate people, we often *see*
words rather than *hear* them.  So you say 'supna', we see/hear 'sapna',
and so we say 'sapna'.  (It's really neat watching someone who is already
a fluent speaker learn to read.  The phenomenon is not quite so obvious
in someone who's reading is at the same level as her spoken language.
It becomes obvious again when someone is reading well above her spoken
language skills.)

For example, I have to *work* at it to pronounce "draught" (/draft/)
correctly.
jmsaul
response 73 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 22:13 UTC 2002

That said, I think there *is* a word in English somewhere in which the "a"
is prounounced "uh".  It's close in "fireman".
gull
response 74 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 22:16 UTC 2002

My last name, Brodbeck, is pronounced witha  long o.  I've given up on
trying to correct people on this because most people, no matter how many
times I tell them, insist on pronouncing it with a short 'o'.  My advice
to mynxcat is to get used to it, because you'll never get people to
remember.  It goes in one ear and out the other, because it's never a
priority for them unless you're a good friend.
gelinas
response 75 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 22:26 UTC 2002

Yes, and the correct pronunciation of the initial consonant cluster in
"zwei" is in the colloquial pronunciation of "It's violet".  Doesn't mean
we English-speakers/readers will get it right.  ;)
mynxcat
response 76 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 23:09 UTC 2002

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rcurl
response 77 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 23:59 UTC 2002

Re #73: what about words like what and about? 
mynxcat
response 78 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 00:03 UTC 2002

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jmsaul
response 79 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 00:23 UTC 2002

Thank you, Rane!  I knew there were some really common ones, I was just
blanking on them.  Those both qualify, and they're better than "fireman"
or "corpsman".
mynxcat
response 80 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 00:29 UTC 2002

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richard
response 81 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 00:57 UTC 2002

movies!  this is the movies item!  hasn't anybody seen any movies 
recently?

I saw PUNCH DRUNK over the weekend.  I thought it was pretty good although
I'm not the world'sb iggest adam sandler fan.
mynxcat
response 82 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 01:03 UTC 2002

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gelinas
response 83 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 01:15 UTC 2002

"what" is pronounced, roughly /wut/.  "about" starts with a schwa, which
sound like /u/.

I just learned that Annette O'Toole played Lana Lang in _Superman III_, which
I don't reemember seeing, so I can't review it.
mynxcat
response 84 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 01:22 UTC 2002

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lelande
response 85 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 01:39 UTC 2002

in phonetics there are two schwas, the /@/ we're used to seeing which is an
/uh/ in unstressed syllables; and the stressed schwa is called caret, /^/
(except bigger... an upside-down 'v'). i'm guessing Sapna's name is stressed
on the first syllable, making it caret. 

there are, of course, no standard pronounciations. at best there are most
common pronounciations. i pronounce "what" /w^t/, most of the time, although
sometimes i front my tongue a little and say something between /w3t/ ("wet")
and /wIt/ ("wit").
the interesting thing to know about the two schwas is that they are produced
by non-extreme positioning of the tongue in the mouth at the time of
production. they're the vowels that just hang out in the middle of everything.
jmsaul
response 86 of 289: Mark Unseen   Oct 23 02:55 UTC 2002

Re #84:  Not in American English, it isn't.  It's pronounced "Whut".
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