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klg
response 62 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:01 UTC 2006

Don't forget the thrilling episode on how the ACLU helps the mentally 
ill by enabling them to live on the streets rather than in hospitals 
and shelter. 
nharmon
response 63 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:12 UTC 2006

My comment was not sarcastic.
jadecat
response 64 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:30 UTC 2006

resp:61 There's a different between having a student post a quote- for
themselves- under their yearbook picture, and the school posting a
Biblical quote for the entire class. Make sense?
marcvh
response 65 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:33 UTC 2006

Re #61, as in so many cases, it depends on context.  If it's clear that
the verse was the expression of an individual student and not an
endorsement by the school, and other messages of individual expression
were also permitted, then it sounds like a reasonable outcome.

Of course, it also means the school has very little power to exert
editorial control over messages, so people could have messages like
"Abstinence is for losers who can't get any" or "I love Hitler" or
just about anything.
klg
response 66 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:36 UTC 2006

NH  Excuse me.  You slipped in.
nharmon
response 67 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 20:57 UTC 2006

Re 64 & 65: I can see the distinction between the student saying
something, and the school saying the same thing. But what I was getting
at is...Would the ACLU have raised a fit that one student was allowed to
express his/her christian religious beliefs while another minority
student was not, if the verse had been allowed through?...(include
claims that said minority student was not valedictorian because he/she
was not affirmatively treated). I could see the ACLU filing such a lawsuit.

But, that is purely hypothetical, and not the case here. In this case I
applaud the ACLU's actions.
tod
response 68 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:02 UTC 2006

At my middle school (Kelly Junior High of East Detroit Public Schools), we
were called The Crusaders.  In Band, we had to sing the Crusader fight song,
our yearbook was the Crusader, and so was the weekly journal.  I even was
asked to repent on a regular basis during my typing classes.

I never made a fuss about it though because I was taught early that Christians
are arrogant people deserving of pity and understanding.
marcvh
response 69 of 70: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:02 UTC 2006

The ACLU (and the courts) have indeed raised concerns if there is a 
procedure put into place in order to produce the appearance of a message
being "individual student expression" when it's been clearly designed
with the intention of making a specific religious endorsement as the 
inevitable result.  Historically courts are usually not amused by shams.
wilt
response 70 of 70: Mark Unseen   May 16 23:52 UTC 2006

HACKED BY GNAA LOL JEWS DID WTC LOL
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