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Grex > Helpers > #138: Grex System Problems - Winter 2004/2005 |  |
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russ
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response 612 of 870:
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Feb 3 04:49 UTC 2005 |
This looks like a problem:
PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND
25997 r3- I 0:00.61 ./psybnc
25353 r3- I 0:00.63 ./psybnc
21795 r3- I 0:00.58 ./psybnc
5143 r3- I 0:00.55 ./psybnc
27215 r3 Is 0:00.02 -bash (bash)
24250 r3 I+ 0:00.41 pico index2.html
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cross
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response 613 of 870:
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Feb 3 05:15 UTC 2005 |
This response has been erased.
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keesan
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response 614 of 870:
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Feb 3 16:29 UTC 2005 |
Grex ssh worked last night but this morning: remote host failed or
refused to allocate a pseudo tty. (A bunch more lines and then a
blinking cursor).
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keesan
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response 615 of 870:
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Feb 3 16:47 UTC 2005 |
Now I could ssh and login but then 'unable to find your tty (ttyr4) in utmp
file. Things seem to be working okay anyway.
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keesan
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response 616 of 870:
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Feb 4 02:31 UTC 2005 |
Lynx is working, ridiculously fast! I keep overshooting. But ftp (for
members) is not working with lynx.
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gelinas
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response 617 of 870:
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Feb 4 04:12 UTC 2005 |
I don't find it too surprising that ftp doesn't work within lynx; lynx isn't
linked to the necessary wrapper.
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keesan
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response 618 of 870:
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Feb 4 15:18 UTC 2005 |
When I ssh here 'unable to find your tty in utmp' again but it works.
Ftp has not been working in the browsers for a while now and I hope it can
be fixed soon so that I will not have to exit lynx to use ftp once I find the
directory I am interested in getting a file from - last night it was a modem
upgrade file from usr that I could not access on my own slower connection (it
took so long that lynx on my computer started to look for www.usr.com.edu).
I can ftp between my computer and grex now.
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davel
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response 619 of 870:
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Feb 4 15:19 UTC 2005 |
I mention this because I don't know whether something was done since the last
mention (but if it was, it didn't work):
I just got
mesg: Unable to find your tty (ttyq6) in utmp file
when logging in.
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davel
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response 620 of 870:
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Feb 4 15:20 UTC 2005 |
Sindi slipped in, with probably the same problem (with mesg).
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micklpkl
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response 621 of 870:
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Feb 4 17:25 UTC 2005 |
Just as another data point, I'm still receiving the type of error when
ssh'ing into grex that is described in resp:614 and others, above. Here
is the oddly formatted text that is written to the screen when this happens:
<pasted>
Server refused to allocate pty
Warning: no access to tty (Bad file descriptor).
Thus no job control in
this shell.
stty: mesg: I/O stream 2 improperly redirected
not a terminal
stty: not
a terminal
tset: standard error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
stty: not a terminal
mesg: I/O stream 2 improperly redirected
watch: Could not identify your terminal
</paste>
Note: this error doesn't always happen but when it does it seems
impossible to ssh at all.
I would appreciate any explanation as to why this occurs, still. On the
old Grex server, this would happen a lot and everytime someone asked,
we'd get the pat explanation that "just wait until next Grex; all these
problems will go away."
Thank you for your attention to this matter, volunteers.
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naftee
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response 622 of 870:
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Feb 5 00:45 UTC 2005 |
whuddup
-bash-2.05b$ w wing21
7:44PM up 6 days, 23:58, 16 users, load averages: 0.78, 0.83, 0.80
USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT
wing21 ft 200.175.43.115.d Sat10PM 0 -
wing21 ft 200.175.43.115.d Sat09PM 0 -
wing21 ft 200.175.43.115.d Sat10PM 0 -
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gelinas
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response 623 of 870:
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Feb 5 04:40 UTC 2005 |
I thought he mentioned it somewhere above, but perhaps folks missed it:
OpenBSD doesn't write information to the utmp file as quickly as it could.
So things that look at utmp, like mesg, during login sometimes fail. So
Jan added a one-second retry to mesg. Sometimes, even that one second isn't
enough.
Personally, I've taken to running the mesg command from my .login by hand when
I see that message, figuring that by the time I can enter commands by hand
utmp has been updated.
On oldGrex, the "failure to allocate pty" error was caused by the telnet
queue. NewGrex doesn't have the telnet queue, so we didn't expect to have
the "failure to allocate pty" error. However, sometimes no ptys are
available, with the result reported in #621 above and elsewhere.
Right now, we don't know why ptys aren't available. We have tried increasing
the number. We've not stopped investigating the problem.
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mcnally
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response 624 of 870:
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Feb 5 05:17 UTC 2005 |
This would be a really low priority item compared to all of the rest,
but is there any chance of upping the time limit you are given to
authenticate before ssh times out? The old grex used to be quite
generous in this regard, now I find that if I start ssh and switch
to another window I often run into the limit before switching back.
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keesan
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response 625 of 870:
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Feb 5 21:20 UTC 2005 |
Any progress on moving over the modems? We know at least one grexer with no
other way to reach his mail, and he assumes it is now full of spam and
bouncing all his real mail.
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gelinas
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response 626 of 870:
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Feb 6 01:16 UTC 2005 |
Well, let's see . . . Three modems (one a spare) are now at Provide.Net.
One is attached to grex. The other needs a different cable, because there
wasn't enough space for two DB25-DB9 adapters on grex's serial ports.
I borrowed a telephone cord from the Provide.Net people, to connect that modem
to the telco. (Amazingly, it hasn't been called yet. :)
I think we need to turn on the tty for the connected modem. I also think it
is on tty00. Unless I guessed wrong, in which case it is on tty01. I don't
know yet if turning it on will require a reboot. Whether it does or no, I'm
going to turn on both at the same time.
Before my next visit to Provide.Net, I need to get:
two 25-foot telephone cords
A DB9-DB9 serial cable, preferrably male-female.
The last could be replaced by a DB9F-DB25M serial cable.
BTW, a serial-to-USB adapter at Radio Shack was $41.xx, just a little more
than a new, external USB modem.
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drew
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response 627 of 870:
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Feb 6 01:33 UTC 2005 |
Don't buy at Radio Shack!
Try Best Buy, CompUSA, and the next Gibraltar Trade Center computer show.
Or local computer stores.
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cross
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response 628 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:02 UTC 2005 |
This response has been erased.
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keesan
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response 629 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:12 UTC 2005 |
We have a serial to USB adaptor that could be donated to grex if the serial
ports cannot be made to work, and probably a few long phone cords.
We have at least two spare 9F-25M modem cables and Kiwanis probably has 9-9s
(I am using our only one with a newer modem that needs it). Give us a call
(see Deigert in the phone book) if you want these tomorrow.
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keesan
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response 630 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:21 UTC 2005 |
I am dialed into grex!!!!! No telnet lag. I had last tried about 7 pm and
it just rang and rang. We have one 9-9/25 modem cable that grex can at least
borrow until we find another at Kiwanis. Jim says he can make whatever length
phone cords are needed - he has a tool and the ends to put on with it.
We have some 9-pin female to 25-pin male (computer to modem) that grex is
welcome to keep as we know we can get more of these at Kiwanis. Joe, what
time are you going to provide.net tomorrow?
Yippe!!!!!
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keesan
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response 631 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:33 UTC 2005 |
I can even ssh from grex to somewhere else after dialing in.
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gelinas
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response 632 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:37 UTC 2005 |
I don't know that I will go tomorrow, much as I'd like to. When I went over
this evening, I got lucky: some other folks had just arrived and were calling
to be let in. Had they not been there, I'd have not been able to get in.
While access is available 8am-10pm, it's not automatic.
I'll poke around my own basemenet first. I know I have some long telephone
cords, and I have the means to make more, too.
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keesan
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response 633 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:38 UTC 2005 |
Why am I logged in from -? I think it used to be 'groovy'. Does this reflect
the change from a computer to a serial port?
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keesan
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response 634 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:38 UTC 2005 |
632 slipped in. Joe, let us know about modem cables. I have a long and a
short ready for you (F/M).
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gelinas
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response 635 of 870:
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Feb 6 03:57 UTC 2005 |
Yes, "-" reflects the absence of the terminal server.
I'll let you know, one or the other, later tonight, Sindi.
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gelinas
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response 636 of 870:
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Feb 6 04:03 UTC 2005 |
I'd like to make sure that someone who is NOT a member can't ssh out, too.
(I expect that they can't.)
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