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lumen
response 60 of 189: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 01:33 UTC 1998

re #58: Doesn't surprise me a bit.  Rock is just flat lately and guitars are
being abused (after the backlash against synth).  So back swings the pendulum,
I suppose, and techno didn't get the favor-- it was rap, the next genre which
uses quite a bit of electronic devices and studio techniques.

I'm surprised no one remembers that Bono of U2 mentioned hip-hop had
tremendous technological resources of the electronic variety.  The band
started when the electronic sound in Europe and then the UK was beginning.
krj
response 61 of 189: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 16:08 UTC 1998

More on the MP3 player lawsuit:

http://news.webnoize.com/temp/3067.html
 
"A federal court of the Central District of California issued a 
Temporary Restraining Order to enjoin distribution and sale 
of a product of Diamond Multimedia Systems, Inc., the Rio PMP300
portable MP3 player, on Friday."
 
The order is for ten days.  The RIAA puts up a $500,000 bond 
to compensate Diamond if the RIAA eventually loses the case.

There is also a link to a nice story on the user-driven
growth of the MP3 market.
goose
response 62 of 189: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 21:04 UTC 1998

Gad I hate the RIAA...
krj
response 63 of 189: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 22:12 UTC 1998

More on the MP3 player lawsuit:
 
http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/15847.html
 
"Reversing her ruling of 10 days ago, US District Judge Audrey B. Collins
on Monday denied the request of the Recording Industry Association of 
America to issue an injunction against Diamond Multimedia.  The RIAA 
sought to prevent Diamond from releasing its Rio PMP300 portable MP3
player, a Walkman-like device that lets users upload music files directly
from their computers.

"'We're free to distribute the Rio,' an elated Ken Wirt, spokesman
for Diamond told Wired News from outside the Los Angeles courtroom.
The company plans to ship the unit in November.
 
...

((Testimony submitted on behalf of Diamond)) "asserted that the RIAA
'gave an inaccurate account of the legislative history of the 
AHRA ((Audio Home Recording Act)).'  Only if the Rio could accept 
input from a consumer-electronics device -- like a stereo -- would it 
be covered by the act, he said.  Since Rio is designed to record from a 
computer, the statute should exempt the player."

krj
response 64 of 189: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 15:37 UTC 1998

http://www.billboard.com/daily/1211_01.html
 
and many other stories on the completion of the 
acquisition of the Polygram music conglomerate by Seagram's 
Universal Music Group (formerly MCA).  The expanded UMG controls a 
25% market share, becoming the biggest of the Big Five labels.  
Staff layoffs of about 2000-3000 are expected, and the New York Times
indicated that somewhere between "dozens" and 200 artists would be 
dropped.
mcnally
response 65 of 189: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 19:33 UTC 1998

  Urgh..  "Universal Music Group" sounds much more sinister than "MCA".
  Which is probably fitting since this is *not* going to be good for
  artists or music consumers.
lumen
response 66 of 189: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 04:05 UTC 1998

Yeech, well, that's the music business..The Smiths sung about that..
krj
response 67 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 17:39 UTC 1999

The Great Universal Music Group Massacre, II:
 
Excerpts from a Reuters story today, via Yahoo:
 
Seagram's Universal Music Group is absorbing the Polygram conglomerate.
 
"On the West Coast, UMG will fold Interscope, Geffen and A&M Records
 into one music group -- dubbed IGA -- with 290 of the 345 employees of 
 the latter two labels being let go.
 
"Around 140 of the 205 artists across the three labels are expected 
 to eventually be jettisoned, though the acts are expected to be cut 
 gradually over several months.
 
"Mercury Records ... will lose more than half of its 150 stafers and 
 two-thirds of its 145 artists as it is merged with Island and DefJam
 to create the Mercury-Island Group..."
 
So, that sums up to about 250 major label artists being cut.  So far.
scott
response 68 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 18:15 UTC 1999

Sounds like a fantastic opportunity to jump-start new music distrbution
channels.
scott
response 69 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 18:19 UTC 1999

(What with all that talent [both music and promotion] being cut loose, I
mean.)
tpryan
response 70 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 22:50 UTC 1999

        Think I heard someone say Motown labels is now down to 7 employees.
orinoco
response 71 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 22:25 UTC 1999

140 out of 205 artists being cut?  As in, almost three quarters?  Eep!
lumen
response 72 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 07:16 UTC 1999

Maybe they're finding they just can't compete.  I was watching an MTV special
about how thinly money is sliced in the music business, and I can see why
execs are getting shook up.
cyklone
response 73 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 13:57 UTC 1999

I'd be curious to see that show if anyone has a tape. I'd also be curious
to know how much of that money is funnelled into transaction costs for
recent mergers and for lawsuits, etc to preserve old (and possibly
archaic) systems of production, distribution and promotion . . . . 

krj
response 74 of 189: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 15:56 UTC 1999

I've been letting this item languish while I waste too much time in party.
So, some of the references are not as fresh as they should be.

About two weeks ago USA Today ran a big article on the rumors about 
artists being cut from the Universal Music Group rosters.  The rumors 
are now up to 400-500 artists being cut.  Reportedly every artist who 
is not a superstar, or is not regarded as having superstar potential, 
will be axed.
 
On the retailing front:  Universal and BMG are going to combine their 
Internet marketing efforts.  This is considered significant because
together, Universal and BMG have about a 40% market share.  
The Universal/BMG venture, which will be called "GetMusic," will 
be doing "mail order," but not yet Internet delivery.  Still, 
retailers are a bit nervous about having two of the Big Five labels
going into a direct sale venture.

Amazon.com, after a very short period of selling CDs, has become the 
biggest CD retailer on the net, surpassing CD Now.
cloud
response 75 of 189: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 01:39 UTC 1999

I'm not to surprized, actually.  They have far more information on bands,
individual albums, etc.  A lot of this stems from them letting the listeners
rate the band, write comments, etc.  It's really a pretty classy show--
'though I don't actually but anything there, instead prefering to order from
local retailors these days.
krj
response 76 of 189: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 14:37 UTC 1999

A news article tacked up on the wall at Schoolkids-in-Exile reports
that Laura Love is one of the artists dropped by the Mercury label
in the Universal Music Group consolidation.  One down, 499 to go...
krj
response 77 of 189: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 03:31 UTC 1999

USA Today ran a big feature on Friday:  "Is Rock Dead?"
RIAA sales figures indicate that rock's share of the market place 
shrank again in 1998:
     1988:   46.2%  share of sales is rock music
      ...
     1997:   32.5%
     1998:   25.7%

Lots of quotes from old geezers like Jimmy Page and Tom Scholz, and 
young geezers like Billy Corgan and members of R.E.M.  
The article points out that the industry is no longer willing to nurture
budding careers.  Mike Mills said that if R.E.M. began its career 
in the 1990's, "we would never have made it.  Our first record 
would have been put out there by someone expecting it to sell a 
million copies.  And when it didn't, we'd be out."

mcnally
response 78 of 189: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 07:10 UTC 1999

  Who decides what counts as "rock"?  Are there things like "alternative"
  that are now counted seperately from "rock" that would've been counted
  together in 1988?
krj
response 79 of 189: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 14:29 UTC 1999

As far as I can tell from the article, "alternative" sales are lumped 
in with rock.  The article talks about those high numbers from about 
a decade ago as representing the commercial success of Nirvana.

Country and rap sales have grown strongly in the decade while rock 
sales have been declining. 
lumen
response 80 of 189: Mark Unseen   May 28 05:15 UTC 1999

All I can say is that SUCKS, especially as I see unoriginal rap material 
being very popular-- i.e., Puff Daddy-- just a step away from 
encouraging his acts to do nothing but cover tunes..
carson
response 81 of 189: Mark Unseen   May 30 06:20 UTC 1999

(maybe people like oldies.)
cloud
response 82 of 189: Mark Unseen   May 31 22:20 UTC 1999

I recently read an interesting passage by a musicologist named Edward Macan
which speculated that rock as a whole is going into decline. "the power of
rock, after all," he says, "stemmed from the power of the cultural revolution
that spawned it, a cultural revolution the likes of which we have seen only
one other time in this century-- in the early 1920s, with the birth of the
jazz age."  Wouldn't it be interesting to see rock and roll go the way of
classical music?
cyklone
response 83 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 11:57 UTC 1999

We are DEVO!
lumen
response 84 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 01:43 UTC 1999

It would seem that urban/rap music may be the next thing, since I can 
definitely see cultural undercurrents that the music expresses moving 
through society.  Black America seems to be making a push to move to 
front and center.

However, I would not discount the idea that contributions from Latin 
America will be making an even stronger presence in the future.  
Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin, and Gloria Estefan seem to be reaching a 
peak (or very soon) in the mainstream.
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