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cross
response 60 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 19:17 UTC 2010

resp:59 Dude, we're talking about a community of, like, 12 people 
here, all of whom know each other very well.  Do you *really* think a 
simple statement wouldn't suffice for this election?
rcurl
response 61 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 19:39 UTC 2010

I know of the community here what they divulge, but seldom do they 
divulge their training and skills, and even occupations, related to the 
corporate matters with which the board is concerned.
cross
response 62 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 19:46 UTC 2010

resp:61 I really think you're reaching here.  You've interacted with 
these people for many, many years, Rane.  If you can't decide which of 
the three individuals running are qualified for the board based on 
that, and maybe a simple statement, then I just don't know what to say.
remmers
response 63 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 22:17 UTC 2010

Re resp:56 - Thanks for the correction re 'jadecat', Richard.  I've
updated the ballot accordingly.

Yeah, no statements from the candidates so far.  I reminded them all via
email how to do it, but no takers so far.  If any of them creates a
statement before the polls close, the vote program will automatically
start displaying it.
richard
response 64 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 04:06 UTC 2010

You know, since gelinas and ts are running for re-election and want to
serve, I say retract the previous board amendment and keep the board at
seven members as long as there are seven willing to serve.  This way TS
and Gelinas can keep their seats and Jadecat can have one and that makes
seven. Grex is in no position to be turning away people who want to serve.  
richard
response 65 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 04:08 UTC 2010

Just postpone completing the voting and have another bylaw amendment
that simply says that the board can be *either* five or seven members
depending on how many people are available/willing to run in a given cycle.
cross
response 66 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 04:20 UTC 2010

I don't think anyone is being "turned away."  Changing it now seems, frankly,
impractical.
rcurl
response 67 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 04:47 UTC 2010

Re #62: I don't know the occupations, education, and long-term volunteer
capacities on Grex of most everyone I "know" here. Some things related to
these get mentioned by some - infrequently - and I admit I don't try to
memorize the information unless I have some direct personal knowledge of the
persons. 
cross
response 68 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 11:29 UTC 2010

So let me get this straight: after the many, many years you've spent on Grex,
what you're telling me is that you don't feel you have sufficient information
about the three candidates to make an informed decision as to which would be
best to fill the one vacant board position?  Frankly, I find that incredible.
veek
response 69 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 14:00 UTC 2010

he's making a valid point regarding lack of information but it's kind of
 weird because :) board may propose but staff disposes <g> i mean.. it's
 not like former board members didn't try to get things done! It's just 
different from being on the board of Intel in the sense that Grex 
requires more of weirdo technical skills and point of presence right 
now.. it'll be important later on though.. once we have something to 
present to ppl. so what country club do ppl belong to :p
jgelinas
response 70 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 15:57 UTC 2010

(I admit, I've learned more about Rane here than I did on Confer, way
back when.)
richard
response 71 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 18:16 UTC 2010

re #68 this isn't about now knowing any of the three, its about which of
them has any good ideas about what they'd like to accomplish on the board.
richard
response 72 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 19:33 UTC 2010

The bylaw amendment changing the size of the board from seven members to
five stipulated nothing about when such change takes effect.  Therefore
I think the board would be within its legal right to vote that the bylaw
change shall take effect with next year's election cycle and not this
one.  This would allow the board to stay at seven for another year and
all three candidates can have their board seats.  If Grex is around a
year from now then go forth based on five seats.
kentn
response 73 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 19:45 UTC 2010

When a by-law doesn't say when it takes effect, it takes effect
immediately upon passing.  The Board discussed the timing several times
and the purpose of running the by-law amendment voting when we did was
to have it completed prior to this year's Board elections so we'd know
how many seats were open.  Thus it was explicitly planned to go into
effect this year.  No mention was made of having 7 board members at this
election, in other words.
rcurl
response 74 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 21:17 UTC 2010

Correct: bylaw ordinarily goes into effect when adopted, but a change in 
the size of the board can't occur instantaneously, unless provision is 
made for that (like, saying who will be tossed off to go from 7 to 5). I 
didn't think of this at the time (probably because it was pretty moot), 
but it should have included an effective date, say "for the election of 
2010". However it would certainly go into effect at the election 
following enaction, which is now.
jgelinas
response 75 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 21:15 UTC 2010

Just curious:  what happens to votes cast before the change from mooncat
to jadecat?  I don't know that there were any, or any affected by such a
change, but I'm still curious.
richard
response 76 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 07:37 UTC 2010

re #75 good question, I mean it wouldn't be good if Jadecat loses
because technically Mooncat's votes (before the ballot change) can't be
put under her totals.  Not that one would assume Mooncat would have
voted for Jadecat anyway.  I mean who knows if they even get along  :)
remmers
response 77 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 14:06 UTC 2010

The mooncat/jadecat change won't affect the result.  Any votes for
either 'mooncat' or 'jadecat' will be counted towards Anne's total.  And
the way the votes are stored, there wouldn't be any double-counting.
tsty
response 78 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 07:19 UTC 2010

  
frpom 48
  
 (2) A candidate can optionally have a "campaign statement" that is shown
 on the ballot.  Just create a plain text file named "statement" (file
 name must be in lower case) in your home directory and the vote program
 will display it.
  
my statememt is now posted.
  
tsty
response 79 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 07:19 UTC 2010

tnx remmzie ...
  
sholmes
response 80 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 12:49 UTC 2010

what if a candidate inadverdently named a very personal file as "statement"
?
cross
response 81 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 13:32 UTC 2010

If it's not world readable, I doubt it will show up.
remmers
response 82 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 17:22 UTC 2010

Right, for the vote program to see a statement, the file has to be world
readable and stored in a directory that is world searchable.
tsty
response 83 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 17:08 UTC 2010

  
my satemnt is avalaible ... and i fixed all the tpyos.  
  
tsty
response 84 of 123: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 18:49 UTC 2010

  
oh, here;s how:
  
   grex% more ~remmers/ts-statement   
  
from putty anyway.
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