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orinoco
response 60 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 16:06 UTC 2003

Just the other day, I told a telemarketer to stop calling us, and he launched
into a long speech about the national do-not-call list.  I told him, "That's
okay, just take me off your list," and he said, "I will, but I'm required to
tell you all this first.  You can stop listening if you want."  
keesan
response 61 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 21:25 UTC 2003

What browsers have worked for this?  Lynx gives an error message.  Links
refuses to even access the site.  I might wait and try the 888 number in the
middle of the night.  Or try loading linux and opera.
dcat
response 62 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 22:27 UTC 2003

For me "!lynx www.donotcall.gov" from the PicoSpan prompt worked perfectly,
about an hour after your message.
keesan
response 63 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 23:25 UTC 2003

Thanks, I will try again.  Maybe something was busy.
albaugh
response 64 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 01:08 UTC 2003

IWLTA that I am grexing - only long enough to post this, I'm afraid - from
beyond the international date line!  :-)  I'm sitting at a PC in a Cyber Cafe
("Phil 101") in Barangay (barrio) ng Poblacion ("downtown"), Bayan ("town")
ng San Miguel (de Mayumo), Province ng Bulacan, Republika ng Pilipinas
(Philippines).  Grex is *everywhere*!  ;-)
polytarp
response 65 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 01:29 UTC 2003

Nerd.
russ
response 66 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 06:14 UTC 2003

RISKS digest volume 22 issue 78 is in /a/r/u/russ/risks/risks-22.78
jaklumen
response 67 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 07:59 UTC 2003

resp:60 I've done that gig before and it is the truth.  Required by 
law if I remember correctly.

I think a saw a news story on this.  I just laughed when I heard some 
spokesman for the telemarketers all but whine about the law, and the 
narrator say that they claim it hurts their business.  Bullshit.  
Telemarketing is looking for needles in a haystack-- the professionals 
*will* admit that-- and I don't think it's particularly efficient or 
effective.
keesan
response 68 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 09:44 UTC 2003

I got through with lynx about 10 pm tonight.  The telemarketers are looking
for a few very stupid victims, same as the spammers.
rcurl
response 69 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 16:56 UTC 2003

I think a large part of their successes must be lonely people that get
some solace from the telemarketers - no one else is calling them.

keesan
response 70 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 22:33 UTC 2003

A friend currently staying with his mother while she has surgery reports that
one telemarketer got really nasty and wanted to know if the person on the
phone really lived there.  I think his mother must be on a sucker list. 
Someone talked her into borrowing the money (with the house as security) to
replace all her doors and windows.  They worked.  The house has zero
insulation and needs a new roof.  If she cannot come up with the money to
repay, they get the house (with new windows).  

Has anyone got an email from donotcall yet?
aruba
response 71 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 23:03 UTC 2003

I got an email back, in order to complete my registration.  Is that what you
mean?
slynne
response 72 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 23:10 UTC 2003

I got an email back too that allowed me to complete my registration. IT 
took about 24 hours or so
i
response 73 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 00:02 UTC 2003

My older brother reports that he gets *extremely* few junk calls.  But
he works nights, has sleep problems, has been around some really rough
places, and *knows the rules* on the (very few) things that you really
can't say to *someone who called you*.  Somewhere, it seems that they
keep a psycho/hate/etc. list of folks who are too emotionally traumatic
on their employees to be worth calling...
beeswing
response 74 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 00:02 UTC 2003

Yah, same here. I put my home number, my cell number (I get
telemarketing calls on that sometimes) and my parents number. I was
getting up to 7 calls a day at home. 

We changed my grandparents' phone number to an unlisted when they were
falling prey to telemarketers. My grandfather has dementia and is hard
of hearing. The cable people called and talked him into a cable package
with all the movie channels, jacking up their cable bill. My grandfather
didn't understand what it was and didn't know what it was signing up
for. My mom had to call the cable people and got the number changed.
keesan
response 75 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 00:05 UTC 2003

How do the telemarketers get hold of cell phone numbers and isn't that
illegal?
jep
response 76 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 00:05 UTC 2003

I submitted the form again to donotcall.gov, using my home e-mail 
instead of M-Net, and this time I got a response in a minute or two.  
My mother ran across this information, and signed herself up before I 
could even tell her about it.  I'd say it's working much more smoothly 
now than it was at first!
rcurl
response 77 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 01:58 UTC 2003

You can ask for donotcall for *any* phone number. Shouldn't there be some
check on you being the account holder for the phones? Not that I would
have minded someone else putting my phones on donotcall, but....gee wiz....
that would be kind of presumptuous. 

I got on donotcall.gov with no trouble, and the e-mails came back in just
a few hours.
beeswing
response 78 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 05:18 UTC 2003

My parents were majorly happy that I'd put their number on the list.

No, there's no check to see if that is the account holder's number.

I usually got long distance telemarketing calls on my cell. Not very
often, but I want none. So it goes on the list too.
uty
response 79 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 05:48 UTC 2003

ok
dcat
response 80 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 05:57 UTC 2003

Because of the fact that the subscriber pays for airtime on calls received
as well as sent, telemarketing calls to cellular customers are prohibited.
I'll try to look up chapter & verse in the morning if someone hasn't beaten
me to it.
aruba
response 81 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 14:11 UTC 2003

<conspiracy-theory>
  I hope this isn't all some government plot to generate a list of numbers
  and associate them with email addresses.  I wonder if we'll all be getting
  spam or something worse from this in the future.
</conspiracy-theory>
oval
response 82 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 15:08 UTC 2003

..i was thinking this too....doing exactly what usually causes the spam to
get rid of it??

gull
response 83 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 15:36 UTC 2003

If you're worried about giving your email address, there will soon be a
toll-free phone number you can use to register your number.

Me, I just registered on the site.  My email address is already
associated with my phone number via WHOIS, anyhow.
lynne
response 84 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 18:30 UTC 2003

<imagines potential lawsuits over being unknowingly put on the do not call
list..."dammit, those telemarketers were my entire social life!">
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