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tpryan
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response 59 of 116:
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Sep 19 21:12 UTC 2003 |
How soon before Minnesota clinches the division and all
home field advantages? That is, when can they cool their jets?
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krj
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response 60 of 116:
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Sep 19 21:43 UTC 2003 |
Minnesota only has a 3.5 game lead; they will be highly motivated
to crush the Tigers.
In newspaper stories today, Alan Trammell says the team has "run out
of gas."
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aruba
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response 61 of 116:
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Sep 20 04:22 UTC 2003 |
The Tigers lost again tonight. They had a chance to tie it up in the
eigth, but Dmitri Young popped out with the bases loaded to end the inning.
They've now lost 7 in a row, and 13 of the last 14. And their winning
percentage has dipped below .250.
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tpryan
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response 62 of 116:
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Sep 20 22:06 UTC 2003 |
re 60:
Hey Alan, did they have gas to begin with?
(putting it short, I thing the problem is the players, not the staff).
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aruba
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response 63 of 116:
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Sep 21 03:32 UTC 2003 |
Tigers lost again today, taking them to 38 and 116. Only one win in the
last 15 games.
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krj
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response 64 of 116:
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Sep 21 16:36 UTC 2003 |
Something I've only seen mentioned once in the press:
In 2002, the Tigers fired Phil Garner early in the season and
promoted Luis Pujols to be the caretaker manager for a doomed season.
Pujols had never managed before, but he brought in his veteran manager
friend Felipe Alou as bench coach. It was, of course, a horrid season,
and Pujols and Alou were fired by the Tigers at the end of it.
(55-106, the 2002 record, doesn't sound so bad now, does it?)
Alou was hired as the manager of the San Francisco Giants, and he
brought in Luis Pujols as a Giants coach. The Giants have the National
League West title with a 14 game lead.
I imagine Alou and Pujols are relieved to be out of Detroit.
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albaugh
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response 65 of 116:
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Sep 21 18:58 UTC 2003 |
At 38-116 the Tigers would have to go 5-3 over the last 8 games to reach the
"safety" of 43 wings. It's not going to happen. They and their fans are
doomed to at least share some worst team records. Even if they go a
respectable 3-5 they will set the record for most losses (121).
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krj
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response 66 of 116:
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Sep 21 19:27 UTC 2003 |
Tim Ryan in resp:59 :: One writer pointed out that you are right;
by the final weekend's series with Detroit, the Twins are likely to
have clinched the division title and might be in a mood to rest
their front-line players for the playoffs. I'd forgotten that there
were two series left with Minnesota.
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aruba
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response 67 of 116:
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Sep 21 22:50 UTC 2003 |
Tigers lost again today. That makes 9 in a row, 15 out of 16. 7 games to
go. Minnesota needs two games to clinch, and they play two games at home
against Cleveland on Tuesday and Wednesday. So they may indeed have
clinched by the time they come to Detroit on Thursday.
Meanwhile, Kansas City and Chicago are tied for second in the division, 5.5
games back of the Twins. They're both out of the wildcard race. We go to
KC next, for three games. KC has won 7 of their last 10.
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gelinas
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response 68 of 116:
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Sep 22 03:32 UTC 2003 |
(Why do you think the Tigers could beat the Twins' second, or even third, rank
players?)
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albaugh
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response 69 of 116:
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Sep 22 17:50 UTC 2003 |
The Tigers are indeed 38-117 with 7 games to go. They are the "lock of the
millennium" to tie / break the record for losses.
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aruba
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response 70 of 116:
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Sep 23 03:38 UTC 2003 |
Tigers lost again tonight. They looked pretty good early on - sent 8 men to
the plate in the top of the 5th and tied the game at 4; but then they came
apart in the 6th, making at least 3 pitching changes in the inning.
So they've lost 10 in a row, 16 of the last 17. 6 games to go.
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albaugh
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response 71 of 116:
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Sep 23 04:06 UTC 2003 |
That makes 'em 38-118, an amazing, astounding *80* games under .500
Royals doubled 'em up, 12-6. We're all doubled over in pain... :-(
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aruba
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response 72 of 116:
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Sep 23 13:17 UTC 2003 |
That's 40 games under .500, if I understand baseball speak correctly. The
number of games B is behind A is
((A's wins - B's wins) + (B's losses - A's losses)) / 2
So if you compared the Tigers to a team which had n wins and n losses, you'd
get
((n - 38) + (118 - n)) / 2 = 80/2 = 40.
But I'm just extrapolating from what I've seen in the newspaper, so I
could be wrong.
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jep
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response 73 of 116:
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Sep 23 14:20 UTC 2003 |
I understand they're charging $5 for Upper Deck Box and Reserved seats
this weekend.
The Tigers are 1-93 this year when trailing after six innings.
The Tigers would be 40 games behind a .500 team (78-78) at this point,
however they'd need to win 80 more games in order to get to .500, so
they are 80 games below .500.
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aruba
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response 74 of 116:
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Sep 23 15:20 UTC 2003 |
I'm thinking of going to a game this weekend. Anyone want to make a
Grexpedition of it?
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albaugh
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response 75 of 116:
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Sep 23 16:22 UTC 2003 |
Actually aruba, your "/ 2" logic is what I have thought it *should* be, since
it would represent the number of games they would have had to win instead of
losing that would take them to .500. However, that is not how it is
interpreted in baseball tradition: "# games under .500" is the number of
consecutive games the team would have to win to get back to .500. I don't
like it, I think it "doubles" the "stat", but it's "the tradition".
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tpryan
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response 76 of 116:
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Sep 23 18:17 UTC 2003 |
How many games are the Tigers behind the American League leader?
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jep
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response 77 of 116:
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Sep 23 18:57 UTC 2003 |
The Tigers are 29 1/2 games in back of Cleveland (67-90), #4 in their
division. They're 49 games back of Minnesota (87-69), their division
leader. If there were no divisions, they'd be 59 games in back of the
Yankees (97-59) for the American League pennant.
Mark, I wouldn't mind going to the game, preferably on Sunday so I
don't have to miss any college football games on TV.
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albaugh
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response 78 of 116:
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Sep 24 03:52 UTC 2003 |
The Tigers pounded out a month's (season's) worth of frustration on the
Royals, winning Tuesday night (Sept 23) 15-6. They had gone ahead 7-2 in the
top of the 4th, then promptly gave up 4 runs to make it 7-6. But they came
right back with 4 in the top of the 5th, and ended up scoring at least 1 run
in each of the first 7 innings, something they haven't done is many years.
Their previous high for runs this season had been 10.
So they're now 39-118 with 5 games left. With 1 win they will at least avoid
setting the record for fewest wins. It's still going to be hard to avoid
setting the anti-record for most losses.
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gelinas
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response 79 of 116:
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Sep 24 04:22 UTC 2003 |
It's going to be hard to avoid one more win, but I think the Tigers can do
it.
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jep
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response 80 of 116:
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Sep 24 12:43 UTC 2003 |
Let's put it this way; the Tigers just ended a 10 game losing streak.
They have 5 left to play. They can lose them all... and the odds are
that they will. I'm hoping for any win(s) they can get. Every one is
important to avoid a bad milestone:
1 win -- win #40, at least tie the Mets rather than "pass" them
2 wins -- win #41, winning percentage goes above .250
3 wins -- no worse than 120 losses
4 wins -- not the worst team ever, or even tied for worst ever
5 wins -- a year-ending 6 game winning streak would be a breath of
fresh air
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aruba
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response 81 of 116:
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Sep 24 14:09 UTC 2003 |
Sunday's game is at 1:05 - let's do it. Who else wants to go, besides jep
and me? THose of us in Ann Arbor could carpool, and meet the rest of you at
the ballpark.
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jep
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response 82 of 116:
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Sep 25 13:15 UTC 2003 |
There are some good tickets left for $5. I just did a search and could
have bought 4 seats in section 325 (behind the plate, upper deck,
middle row of the section) by ordering them on-line. These are
normally $20 tickets. I sat there several times during the Tigers
first season in Comerica.
There's a $3.25 surcharge per ticket for ordering tickets on-line. It
might be worthwhile. They *could* sell out for the last game, though I
think it's unlikely. We'd surely get better tickets by buying in
advance.
If we're going to meet up at the ballpark, we ought to pick a place and
time so we can find each other. Maybe the Tiger statue in front of the
stadium would be a good place?
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aruba
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response 83 of 116:
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Sep 25 13:39 UTC 2003 |
That sounds good. I'll enter an item in the new Agora.
Tigers score 4 in the 1st inning last night, then hung on to win 4-3. So
they won't become the first team not to win 40 games. One more win and
they'll be above .250, and so avoid having the worst winning percentage of
all time.
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