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25 new of 870 responses total.
mcnally
response 58 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 06:40 UTC 2004

 Once most of the major transition issues are straightened out, can
 spamassassin (or a similar tool) be made available to users who wish
 to invoke it via procmail?
charcat
response 59 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 09:27 UTC 2004

my grex mail dosn't seem to be working properly, I can send mail out but
when I e-mail myself from my other address, nothing shows up.
dpc
response 60 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 15:55 UTC 2004

hThe shell problem I reported is fixed.  Thanks!  However, backspaces
still show up as ^H.  Plus, the "byte abcd" problem with the pager
is still there.  I think thes e two problems need global fixes.

Looks like good progress so far on this big transition, though!  8-)
gull
response 61 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:11 UTC 2004

Re resp:45: Try WinSCP3.  I like it a lot.


Re resp:51: It was just explained a few responses up that that was an
unusual behavior of old Grex that confused a lot of people.  It's
unlikely to be duplicated on new Grex.

If you explain why you want to log out and then immediately log in
again, maybe we can suggest an alternative way to accomplish the same thing.
keesan
response 62 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:23 UTC 2004

Why I want to logout and login:  to check Jim's mail without a second phone
call.  Jim also helps out a few people with using grex and sometimes has to
go into their accounts to fix things.  If I make a change to .cshrc or .login
and I cannot remember how to get this change to take effect without logging
out and in again (such as experimenting with ^H and backspace to try to help
someone else with that problem).  

Charcat, can you mail yourself from within grex?  Do you want me to try
mailing you?  Do you want to try mailing me from your other address?  

Why I use Kermit to telnet:  I have an account at sdf.lonestar.org (which used
to be a lot faster than grex and it has links2 and grex did not, and it has
the latest lynx 2.8.5, and I have 100MB storage space and a website with
photos) and I can use kermit to telnet there and do file transfers over the
same connection, rather than having to exit kermit to do ftp, also one level
of membership there allows kermit file transfer but not ftp (the $1
membership).   Could the same group with outbound ftp have outbound kermit
please?  Also I can print my mail on  my printer if I am dialed into grex with
kermit (or telnetted with kermit to grex) and then telnetted from grex to sdf
with kermit, but not with regular telnet.  

But I think charcat's mail problem should be fixed first, and the ^H
backspace.
blaise
response 63 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:29 UTC 2004

Offhand, a good way to get the old behavior would be to use "exec login"
in place of "logout".
gull
response 64 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:29 UTC 2004

Re resp:62: If all you want to do is rerun your .login, use the command
'source .login'.

If you want to log in as someone else, type 'login' and you'll get a new
login prompt.  Note that this opens a subshell; when you type 'exit',
you'll be back in your own account, so don't just turn the computer over
to them and leave. ;)
remmers
response 65 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:44 UTC 2004

Or you could type 'exec login' if you don't want to open a subshell.
keesan
response 66 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:44 UTC 2004

Thanks, I will try all of the above ways to re-login.
I just looked at .login and I find /usr/ucb on the path and also
erase '^?' and tset in there.  Could the script that fixes .login's remove
/usr/ucb from the path?  I don't know why someone is having trouble with
backspace but that appears to be set in .login too.  Changing the ? to H might
fix the problem for those who have the problem.  My backspace works fine.
For some reason I have erase '^H' followed by erase '^?'.  I can erase what
I am typing here with Ctrl-H but not Ctrl-?.  Can someone explain?  
keesan
response 67 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:52 UTC 2004

I tried the following to login to Jim's account and get back to mine:
1.  login then logout > NO CARRIER
2.  exec login then exit > NO CARRIER
3.  login then exit > NO CARRIER
exit appears to invoke logout.   Luckily we now have unlimited phone service.
Did I miss anyone's suggestion of how to get out of Jim's account but stay
connected?  
cross
response 68 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 16:53 UTC 2004

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keesan
response 69 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 17:24 UTC 2004

ssh jdeigert@localhost   asked me a question which I had to answer with yes
and then it added jdeigert to some list and let me into his account.  I could
exit with 'exit' and not get disconnected.  Thanks.  I will make an alias to
save typing this out.  
keesan
response 70 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 17:35 UTC 2004

A lot of brand new items showed up in other conferences and I could type
fixseen to put them back to used items except in 'homme', where I could
neither fixseen nor read them but was told 'bad item file header'.
blaise
response 71 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 17:48 UTC 2004

I had forgotten that you are using csh, where login is a builtin.  Try
"exec /usr/bin/login" -- that should log you off and let someone else
log in.  Note that once they have logged in, they will have to do the
same to let another person log in; if the next person to log in uses
logout/exit, then it will disconnect.
kentn
response 72 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 18:02 UTC 2004

Putting literal ANSI escape codes in picospan rsep/isep/ishort (via
.cfonce) doesn't work for changing colors in bbs any longer.  All I get
are the raw codes.  My terminal can show colors just fine otherwise. 
cross
response 73 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 18:14 UTC 2004

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kentn
response 74 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 18:17 UTC 2004

I was running 'bbs' however 'ft' exhibits the same behavior.
cross
response 75 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 18:39 UTC 2004

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nharmon
response 76 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 18:40 UTC 2004

Does anyone know what causes pine to create these .pine-debug1 files in my
home directory? They tend to annoy :)
cross
response 77 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 18:47 UTC 2004

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albaugh
response 78 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 19:53 UTC 2004

When I just went to run mail I got this:


$ mail

/tmp: write failed, user disk limit reached
mail: /tmp: Disc quota exceeded


Wassup with that?!
albaugh
response 79 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 19:57 UTC 2004

I am seeing the last line of new / newresponse bbs items missing.
I forget what I had set my pager to - more or less - but now instead of seeing
"More" I am seeing "byte xxxx".  What gives?
gull
response 80 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 20:02 UTC 2004

Missing the last line of items is often a symptom that the number of
rows on your terminal is not the same as the system thinks it is.
albaugh
response 81 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 20:06 UTC 2004

(I can't read that last line. :-)

If it says something about number of lines per screen in some config file
setting somewhere, then since I didn't change anything, it's something that
got broken during nextgrex'ing.  Should I go on a search and destroy mission
for myself (and if so, where?), or will something systemic be fixed?

blaise
response 82 of 870: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 20:42 UTC 2004

Gull said:
 Missing the last line of items is often a symptom that the number of
 rows on your terminal is not the same as the system thinks it is.

What terminal type are you set to?  (echo $TERM)

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