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tod
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response 55 of 270:
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Jun 26 18:22 UTC 2003 |
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mdw
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response 56 of 270:
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Jun 26 18:55 UTC 2003 |
Generally, you get more money by assuming more risk, putting more money
in, and/or doing things nobody else wants to do. For instance, garbage
collectors and plumbers make pretty good money. The 400 richest people
in the country save more in their income taxes than you'll ever make in
your lifetime. Jet test pilots make pretty good money as well. If you
aren't rich and/or suicidal, you might as well go with plumbing,
electricity, or garbage.
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goose
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response 57 of 270:
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Jun 26 20:36 UTC 2003 |
Read: "The Millionaire Nextdoor".
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flem
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response 58 of 270:
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Jun 26 21:26 UTC 2003 |
You can also make a lot of money by doing things that no one else is able to
do. However, odds are quite good that anything you can do, someone else can
learn to do. This also isn't necessarily a quick route to success, as many
years can be required to demonstrate that you really can do this and no one
else can.
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keesan
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response 59 of 270:
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Jun 26 22:17 UTC 2003 |
Roofers get paid pretty well but sometimes they fall off, and it can get quite
hot or cold or wet up on a roof.
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polytarp
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response 60 of 270:
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Jun 26 23:49 UTC 2003 |
ROOFERS, lol!
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i
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response 61 of 270:
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Jun 27 00:46 UTC 2003 |
To judge from the social & ethnic makeup of roofing crews that i've seen,
roofing neither well-paid nor desirable work.
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keesan
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response 62 of 270:
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Jun 27 00:51 UTC 2003 |
Metal roofing with crimped seams pays at least $50/hour, union.
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i
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response 63 of 270:
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Jun 27 01:01 UTC 2003 |
Ah! I've generally seen residential (non-union) roofers. Though $50/hour
sounds rather high...that's not the rate the roofers charge the customer,
is it?
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gold
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response 64 of 270:
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Jun 27 01:08 UTC 2003 |
Is there anyone here who wants to be ordered aroun?
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dcat
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response 65 of 270:
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Jun 27 01:18 UTC 2003 |
Dunno. If you tell us what 'aroun' is, someone surely will want some.
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mdw
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response 66 of 270:
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Jun 27 01:59 UTC 2003 |
The problem with roofers is there are actually plenty of immigrants who
are willing to do it. The roofers aren't necessarily well-paid, but
somebody is definitely making boatloads of moeny off the whole process,
and it isn't the homeowner.
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rcurl
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response 67 of 270:
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Jun 27 05:11 UTC 2003 |
Our experience is that roofers are very fast and very sloppy. One put his
foot through a room ceiling when working near the eave of our house.
(They had it fixed, but it shouldn't have happened.) They also left a lot
of debris (pieces of roofing, nails) all around the house. But it really
isn't a highly skilled task. The roofing is designed to go on easily: its
even easier than putting on paint (although hard physical work).
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keesan
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response 68 of 270:
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Jun 27 06:20 UTC 2003 |
Some roofers caught the house around the corner on fire.
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tod
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response 69 of 270:
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Jun 27 20:46 UTC 2003 |
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i
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response 70 of 270:
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Jun 28 01:12 UTC 2003 |
A 2-story house near where i work was 1-story after the roofers took a
risk on a hot, dry, windy day.
Re: #69
Please tell me about the well-paid or desirable full-time low-skill
manual labor jobs held in this area mainly by 2nd- and 3rd-world men
with indifferent english skills, working outside of their ethinc
communities.
It ain't racist to say that America uses a hell of a lot of lower-
social-class folks from poorer countries to do the work that Americans
ain't much willing to touch themselves.
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keesan
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response 71 of 270:
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Jun 28 05:28 UTC 2003 |
We biked out to a worksite once for some free scrap metal sound channel and
discovered that the framing was being done by Americans with very loud
boomboxes and lots of beer and junk food, and the drywall team was entirely
Mexican and did not smoke. They all brought large foil packages of yummy
smelling lunch and appeared to be working very hard. I hope they were paid
at least half as much as the loud Americans. They were extremely polite to
us (even found someone who spoke English).
Drywalling is physically demanding and rather boring.
Our former Costa Rican neighbors used to work washing dishes or painting
houses - quite possibly without the green card you would need for
construction. I run across a lot of Mexicans doing street building.
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madalf
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response 72 of 270:
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Jun 28 12:27 UTC 2003 |
Well, guess what as the economy worsens theres alot of Americans who need
those 8-11 dollar and hour jobs to survive. Guess whose got them now?
All those immigrants? Remind me again how it's racist? How bout big Tech.
Companies sending all their jobs offshore? I think it's time everyone admit
its not about low paid jobs Americans wont do, because Americans are being
forced to do low paying jobs or else big business will just ship the labor
of to someone in india, or let illegals and immigrants 3 of them make 5 bucks
and hour instead of you making 15. It's our job as consumers to let them know
if they aren't going to play nice and appreciate the uniqueness and ingenuity
of the American worker, that they also don't get to enjoy the frivilous and
sometimes extravagant spending of the american consumer. Some business's have
already caught on to that trend as well, thus the success of walmart and
discount stores. Americans are already pinching their pennies. Big business
wont get the msg how ever until companies start going down like flies. Then
in the end what we are facing is a smaller selections, less competition and
more huge conglomerates that do everything for us and hopefully people will
start more mom and pop stores to cater to specialised markets. This country
is in the midst of a transformation. And its not the one we want as
Americans, we are being phased into the mediocre low-wage, doldrum of a life
many other nations have experience for years before us.
We are becoming the proletariats of this era.
If you don't believe it, check on the web about how much vacation time other
nations give their workers vs THE US.
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janc
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response 73 of 270:
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Jun 28 13:12 UTC 2003 |
The last crew of roofers I had working on my house consisted entirely of
Russians. The only one who spoke English was the foreman. Maybe they were
well paid - the roofing company certainly was - but I doubt it, and I'm not
sure how doubting it makes me a racist. Are Russians a race now? Well, I
suppose they were well paid compared to what they'd get in Russia.
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slynne
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response 74 of 270:
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Jun 28 13:55 UTC 2003 |
As things like transportation get cheaper and as things like
telecommunication gets cheaper, expect to see a more global economy. A
truely global economy will mean global labor markets which will mean
that wages in the US will probably fall.
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tpryan
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response 75 of 270:
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Jun 28 17:00 UTC 2003 |
Three volleys means a topic is going well. Time for a new item.
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jaklumen
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response 76 of 270:
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Jun 29 07:54 UTC 2003 |
resp:73 Russians? Most of the 'Russian' people I meet are usually
from one of the former Soviet republics-- say, Moldovia, Usbekistan,
etc. I did have a music professor from St. Petersburg, though. Her
English was somewhat broken but the music chair said her German was
fantastic. Took History of Russian Music with her, only 500 level
class I took in college.
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janc
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response 77 of 270:
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Jun 29 11:39 UTC 2003 |
Dunno. The foreman said they were Russians. Apparantly all relatives of his.
Probably he knew where they came from.
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slynne
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response 78 of 270:
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Jun 29 14:51 UTC 2003 |
resp:75 - If you want one, feel free to start one. I am sure no one
will mind.
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larryk0
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response 79 of 270:
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Jul 1 07:53 UTC 2003 |
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