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25 new of 870 responses total.
mcnally
response 538 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 22:31 UTC 2005

 re #536:  depending on how much space you need, and whether you can
 find another world-writable temporary directory, possibly you could
 bypass the /tmp quota problem by setting the TMPDIR environment
 variable to something else.  I haven't checked how the filesystem
 is laid out on Grex to see whether this would work..
cross
response 539 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 22:42 UTC 2005

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mcnally
response 540 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 22:51 UTC 2005

 I suppose I could have gathered that from the startup message,
 but thanks..
gelinas
response 541 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:06 UTC 2005

Re 536: Can you tell which name server(s) you are using?  All that I can check
have the right address for cyberspace.org.
gelinas
response 542 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:10 UTC 2005

It looks like the changes to the terminal server didn't 'take.'  I'll
power-cycle it the next time I'm in the Pumpkin, which will probably be
tomorrow morning.
keesan
response 543 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:13 UTC 2005

I can now forward mail without having to make it into an attachment - thanks
to whoever fixed this.  I exceeded my /tmp quota one time by trying to save
a large file to it.  If you tried to use /tmp recently how can you figure out
which files in there you still own so as to delete them?  I. e., list all
files that you own in /tmp.  Surely there is some command for this.    How
often is /tmp automatically emptied?  
keesan
response 544 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:26 UTC 2005

w3m www.google.com  -- opening socket...............
lynx google   - tries to access the IP number and nothing happens
links - g - www.google.com - works instantly
gelinas
response 545 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:32 UTC 2005

The command you want, Sindi, is

        find /tmp -user keesan -ls

It looks like I'll also have to kill and restart the web proxy.
keesan
response 546 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:47 UTC 2005

Why is links working if lynx is not?
cobalt
response 547 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:49 UTC 2005

"links - g - www.google.com - works instantly" Yes, but when you attempt to
access the sign in link it fails with error "no route to host"

"lynx google   - tries to access the IP number and nothing happens" --the
system seems to be attempting to access Grex's OLD ip address.

Perhaps this is a DNS proxy issue with a stale cache?
Thanks for attention to this matter.
keesan
response 548 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:52 UTC 2005

Re #545, I copied a small file to /tmp, ls -l showed I had read-write-execute
permissions but others had just read-execute permissions, and then
find /tmp -user keesan -ls listed a bunch of files for all but one of which
I was denied permission so I deleted the one that I had permission for (which
I had copied).  This is the answer to how to empty your overflowing mailbox.
gelinas
response 549 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:56 UTC 2005

No, it's not trying to reach grex's old IP address.  The old address was
216.93.104.34; the address lynx is trying to reach is 216.93.104.35, which
is the web proxy.

The web proxy is still on the DSL link.  I don't know if the problem you are
seeing is caused by the DSL link being flakey or by the web proxy not being
configured for the new subnet.  I added the new subnet to the web proxy's
configuration last night, but the "kill -HUP" may not have been enough to 
cause the proxy to reread its configuration file.
gelinas
response 550 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 04:02 UTC 2005

I don't see how the find command is "the answer to how to empty your
overflowing mailbox."  It's just the way to find the files in /tmp that you
own.  The error message

        find: /tmp/lynx-mLGAA21624: Permission denied

means that we don't have sufficient access to the directory
/tmp/lynx-mLGAA21624 to see the files within it.
naftee
response 551 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 04:21 UTC 2005

re 536 What!  How could you e-mail staff if you could not run mail ?
asddsaasddsaasddsa
response 552 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 05:01 UTC 2005

-bash-2.05b$ w
12:00AM  up 11:19, 20 users, load averages: 0.65, 0.62, 0.59
USER    TTY FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
cross    p0 fubar.cshack.net Tue05PM  2:22 -tcsh
russ     p1 sf31-d20.dynamic Tue11PM     3 -csh
qw2      p2 e81-197-68-102.e Tue11PM     1 menu
cobalt   p3 218.13.94.233    Tue10PM    10 lynx
contaxes p4 174-227.lib.umic Tue10PM     2 mail
rasputin p5 dialup-4.247.140 12:00AM     0 lynx
asddsaasddsaasddsa p7 -                12:00AM     0 w
ryan     p9 67.39.176.100    Tue11PM     0 all your base are belong to us
ketsara  pa 210.246.163.253  Tue11PM    16 -tcsh
naftee   pc 55sub16.edunet.u Tue11PM     0 -bash
charcat  pd host145.64-31-10 Tue11PM     0 /usr/local/bin/party_
pez      pf ip68-228-34-112. Tue11PM     0 /usr/local/bin/party_
gelinas  q0 216.86.65.248    Tue09PM     0 bbs
richard  q3 pool-70-19-93-15 Tue10PM     0 /usr/local/bin/party_
janc     q4 h-69-3-69-232.sf Tue04PM    57 -csh
jmhut    q6 157.95.31.61     Tue11PM    15 (pine)
gelinas  qa 216.86.65.248    Tue10PM     2 lynx http://google.com
srw      qc pcp05308365pcs.w Tue10PM  1:33 -csh
erikb    qf a80-127-224-218. Tue10PM    16 mutt
rcurl    r1 pcp09229896pcs.s Tue11PM     0 pico /a/r/c/rcurl/.cfdir/cf.buffer

Whoa.
scholar
response 553 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 05:02 UTC 2005

whoa!
naftee
response 554 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 05:02 UTC 2005

Whoa!
cobalt
response 555 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 05:09 UTC 2005

1. Yes, of course, this was normal prior to the move
2. I have checked again, the problem still exists, as explicated on the BBS
System Problems Board,
Item #544 and response.

SUMMARY:
links : can access google but forbids sign on, "no route to host"
lynx : attempts to access old proxy then timeout.

Thanks you for attention to this.
albaugh
response 556 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 05:14 UTC 2005

You can *send* mail to others without any bearing on your inbox!
naftee
response 557 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 05:21 UTC 2005

Oh, I got the impression that you could not run mail.
albaugh
response 558 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 05:23 UTC 2005

When you run mail without a recipient list (or other command line parameters)
it invokes it in "read the inbox" mode. 

Setting TMPDIR to my home directory also causes quota exceeded on mail
startup.  Who is going to fix this? (!)  It is intolerable that I can't fix
my situation due to system setup "flaws".
cobalt
response 559 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 06:43 UTC 2005

(In reference to Item #555 ):
The Google link rejected by LINKS is an https link.
I hope that https links are not restricted on this new server.
Thank you for your attention to this.
naftee
response 560 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 06:52 UTC 2005

re 558 So it can't "read the inbox" if your quota has exceeded ?
cobalt
response 561 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 07:23 UTC 2005

sorry: clarification of Item #559-
LINKS loads www.google.com without error (I believe another user has
mentioned this) and it is the sign-on that fails with error "no route
to host"

but the sign-on link being accessed by LINKS is an HTTPS link.

So seeing that LINKS can access http://www.google.com there seems
to be no problem there whatsoever,
but actually the problem PERHAPS is the LINKS rejection of an HTTPS page.

Please respond at your convenience.
Thank you for attention to this matter.
keesan
response 562 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 13:11 UTC 2005

Re 554 - proof that 8 character logins are enough for normal users.
And that longer ones don't display properly in certain programs.
Longer ones are also a nuisance to add to the twit filter.

I thought that the mail problem has to do with /tmp being over quota and
removing files owned by the user in /tmp would fix it.  

I just had a 20 sec freeze.  Shades of old grex.  
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