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25 new of 870 responses total.
jor
response 527 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:56 UTC 2005

        I'm using "bbs' and my .agora??.cf sems to have
        gone away amd, more amazingly, come back. Twice.
gull
response 528 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:06 UTC 2005

Re resp:523: Looks like the name server you're using is still caching
Grex's old IP address.  The problem may resolve itself given a day or so.
albaugh
response 529 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:19 UTC 2005

I always use bbs, from a shell session, unless backtalk (web) must be used
due to shell inavailability.

Under nextgrex, what happens to your (a) conference participation file if you
get idle logged out?  In old grex, that was never a problem (you would have
to re-read the things before the logout happened, but you would lose your
entire participation record).
twenex
response 530 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:27 UTC 2005

I'm using bbs right now, but every time i try using the web interface, I get
the same problem as albaugh.
scholar
response 531 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:30 UTC 2005

http://www.thesameproblemasalbaughforjesus.org/
keesan
response 532 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 01:38 UTC 2005

Bbs, earlier today I also lost my agora.cf file and did a fixseen.
gelinas
response 533 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 18:51 UTC 2005

I think I fixed the terminal server to connect to the new machine last night,
so dial-in should be working again.

I also think I fixed the web proxy to accept requests from the new machine.

No, you aren't seeing double.  I repeated the report here hoping to keep any
counter-examples to this, the "Systems Problems" item, and out of the
"Systems Announcements" item.
mcnally
response 534 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 19:08 UTC 2005

 After a several-day-long mail drought I've received several messages
 (Spam, of course..)  Was it the reboot or was something else changed
 network-wise?
gelinas
response 535 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 19:12 UTC 2005

I don't know; I had to start mail by hand after the reboot because it's not
starting automatically.
albaugh
response 536 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 21:18 UTC 2005

a) cyberspace.org still doesn't come here - only grex.org

b) insult to injury - my grex mailbox got filled up, but every time I try to
run mail to delete stuff, grex tells me /tmp quota exceeded, so I'm hosed.
I sent an e-mail to staff for ideas.  Anyone else have any?
scholar
response 537 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 21:49 UTC 2005

paladin:   no i'll be put in jail for beating someone to death with a keyboard
---- romantic joining from channel rightnow (Jan 25 16:47)
hayz3141: what! paladin is a violent man!
scholar:  stop carrying on with a married man, pete!
scholar:  what!
karenz:   that would be a good bludgeoning instrument
scholar:  why are you so violent, paldin?!
hayz3141: help! help
scholar:  that won't help you get out of jail, you know!
scholar:  karen!
hayz3141: paladin is a violent pyscho with a keyboard! help!
scholar:  stop dishonouring your husband by cuckholding him!
scholar:  help!
scholar:  i'm going to post that in the system problems item, hayz!
mcnally
response 538 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 22:31 UTC 2005

 re #536:  depending on how much space you need, and whether you can
 find another world-writable temporary directory, possibly you could
 bypass the /tmp quota problem by setting the TMPDIR environment
 variable to something else.  I haven't checked how the filesystem
 is laid out on Grex to see whether this would work..
cross
response 539 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 22:42 UTC 2005

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mcnally
response 540 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 22:51 UTC 2005

 I suppose I could have gathered that from the startup message,
 but thanks..
gelinas
response 541 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:06 UTC 2005

Re 536: Can you tell which name server(s) you are using?  All that I can check
have the right address for cyberspace.org.
gelinas
response 542 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:10 UTC 2005

It looks like the changes to the terminal server didn't 'take.'  I'll
power-cycle it the next time I'm in the Pumpkin, which will probably be
tomorrow morning.
keesan
response 543 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:13 UTC 2005

I can now forward mail without having to make it into an attachment - thanks
to whoever fixed this.  I exceeded my /tmp quota one time by trying to save
a large file to it.  If you tried to use /tmp recently how can you figure out
which files in there you still own so as to delete them?  I. e., list all
files that you own in /tmp.  Surely there is some command for this.    How
often is /tmp automatically emptied?  
keesan
response 544 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:26 UTC 2005

w3m www.google.com  -- opening socket...............
lynx google   - tries to access the IP number and nothing happens
links - g - www.google.com - works instantly
gelinas
response 545 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:32 UTC 2005

The command you want, Sindi, is

        find /tmp -user keesan -ls

It looks like I'll also have to kill and restart the web proxy.
keesan
response 546 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:47 UTC 2005

Why is links working if lynx is not?
cobalt
response 547 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:49 UTC 2005

"links - g - www.google.com - works instantly" Yes, but when you attempt to
access the sign in link it fails with error "no route to host"

"lynx google   - tries to access the IP number and nothing happens" --the
system seems to be attempting to access Grex's OLD ip address.

Perhaps this is a DNS proxy issue with a stale cache?
Thanks for attention to this matter.
keesan
response 548 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:52 UTC 2005

Re #545, I copied a small file to /tmp, ls -l showed I had read-write-execute
permissions but others had just read-execute permissions, and then
find /tmp -user keesan -ls listed a bunch of files for all but one of which
I was denied permission so I deleted the one that I had permission for (which
I had copied).  This is the answer to how to empty your overflowing mailbox.
gelinas
response 549 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 03:56 UTC 2005

No, it's not trying to reach grex's old IP address.  The old address was
216.93.104.34; the address lynx is trying to reach is 216.93.104.35, which
is the web proxy.

The web proxy is still on the DSL link.  I don't know if the problem you are
seeing is caused by the DSL link being flakey or by the web proxy not being
configured for the new subnet.  I added the new subnet to the web proxy's
configuration last night, but the "kill -HUP" may not have been enough to 
cause the proxy to reread its configuration file.
gelinas
response 550 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 04:02 UTC 2005

I don't see how the find command is "the answer to how to empty your
overflowing mailbox."  It's just the way to find the files in /tmp that you
own.  The error message

        find: /tmp/lynx-mLGAA21624: Permission denied

means that we don't have sufficient access to the directory
/tmp/lynx-mLGAA21624 to see the files within it.
naftee
response 551 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 04:21 UTC 2005

re 536 What!  How could you e-mail staff if you could not run mail ?
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