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keesan
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response 525 of 823:
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May 16 13:44 UTC 2002 |
You could try asking a local dentist to recycle the mercury for you along with
the stuff they have to take care of from old fillings.
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ea
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response 526 of 823:
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May 16 14:46 UTC 2002 |
The Evilanche won 1-0 last night. (As a Red Wings fan, I would have
rather seen the Sharks beat the 'lanche)
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edina
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response 527 of 823:
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May 16 15:43 UTC 2002 |
Me too - because I think the Wings would have had a much harder time against
the Sharks.
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bhelliom
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response 528 of 823:
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May 16 18:14 UTC 2002 |
IBB I was diagnosed as having [major] depression a couple of weeks ago.
A few people, including myself, thought it was possible, so it's not a
total shock. Still, it sucks. It didn't hurt to hope that wasn't the
case.
Oddly, it strikes me as rather funny, being bummed because you're, well,
bummed.
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flem
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response 529 of 823:
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May 16 19:52 UTC 2002 |
Yeah, but diagnosis suggests the possibility, at least, of treatment.
Following up on previous bummedness, my car is now officially dead. "That
is an ex-car!"
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bhelliom
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response 530 of 823:
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May 16 20:06 UTC 2002 |
Greg, can the name of your organization be shortened to CAHNT? I just
wanted to know so that when we have our first meeting at the local
chapter that I get the name right. :)
When the car thing start? What are you replacing it with?
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jep
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response 531 of 823:
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May 16 20:58 UTC 2002 |
re #528: Who diagnosed you, bhelliom? What kind of treatment are you
getting?
I've been taking Zoloft for depression for the last few months, and I
can tell you it's helped me enormously.
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grimaldi
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response 532 of 823:
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May 16 22:35 UTC 2002 |
I killed my laptop :( now it says the drivers are missing so I'm having a
difficult time reinstalling stuff since all the cd's are in my uncles
possession since it used to be his
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michaela
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response 533 of 823:
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May 17 02:13 UTC 2002 |
St. John's Wort seems to be working for me right now, without the nasty weight
gain Zoloft would have triggered. Granted, my level of depression is low
enough to try natural treatment. I realize other people require prescription
drugs.
IBB I just noticed my muffler and exhaust pipe are hanging down a bit. I hope
it's just a broken bracket of some kind and won't cost much to replace. Feh.
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clees
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response 534 of 823:
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May 17 06:11 UTC 2002 |
Over here (or down here, depends on the view, since these are the
Netherlands) physicists aren't quick to precribe pills. I have had
major depression, lasting over the period 1996 - 1997, with first signs
Autumn 1995, without taking a single pill. I simply didn't get.
When I visited my physicist and begged him for medication (I hadn't
slept for two weeks) he merely suggested I go in therapy.
I did.
Sometimes the best aid comes form within. It only needs some
encouragement, that's what my therapist basically did.
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mooncat
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response 535 of 823:
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May 17 13:38 UTC 2002 |
re #534- Rick, it's not just like the doctors are prescribing meds and
then dismissing people. The point of the meds is to use them in
conjunction with therapy.
Meds are supposed to help the person get to a certain balance point so
that they can take a more honest, objective look at themselves, their
triggers for depresssion and see that a way out is possible.
The only way anyone can ever honestly get out of depression is an
internal change- but oftentimes the depression is so deep that getting
out requires the boost that meds can provide.
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aruba
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response 536 of 823:
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May 17 13:53 UTC 2002 |
Rick - just so you know - in English "physician" is a synonym for "medical
doctor" and "physicist" is someone who studies physics (like quantum
mechanics or general relativity). It's weird that the two words are so
close to each other.
You know what's really weird?
English German
------- ------
again wieder
against wider
the words are similar in both languages, yet mean totally different things.
What's up with that?
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mooncat
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response 537 of 823:
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May 17 14:16 UTC 2002 |
English is derived (in part) from German, and we all know that English
is a generally illogical language so German can be too? ;)
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bhelliom
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response 538 of 823:
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May 17 14:24 UTC 2002 |
Re# 231-- Jep, I was diagnosed after about a month of consultation with
my therapist. We went through a getting acquanted phase where I gave
her lots of background, which we used so she could get a feel for her
patient, and also used it as a spring board. When I called and spoke
to her the first time, I mentioned my what my chief concern was, and
conducted a phone interview to decide if I wanted her as my therapist.
My most recent session was Wednesday.
Treatment? I was happy to learn in the phone interview that she was
not one to use meds as the cure-all, but believe that meds are
sometimes the only thing that allows some people the clarity for
therapy, though this wasn't the case for me. So my medical Dr. and my
therapist now have clearance to speak to each other about my therapy
for the next six months, unless I give them a written extention.
After speaking with my PCP, we have started with a Wellbutrin-Celexa
combination, which is a common choice--they seem to work well
together. And since I was taking Wellbutrin anyway, though for an
altogether different reason, Celexa was the best choice. I've been
started on a low dosage, to make sure that it takes well. Celexa is
not good for Bipolars, and can expose latent mania, hence the
precaution and monitoring before upping the doasage. Average dosage is
40mg. I am rather certain that I will probably get the normal dosage
or close.
Re #534 The problem is, Rick, that if symptoms go untreated for too
long, meds are often required to restore chemical imbalances in the
brain. If this goes on for too long, meds are often needed
indefinitely. It is likely that I was dealing with depression off and
on since high school and possibly earlier. And I agree with Anne's
statement entirely.
Re #536 It's a conspiracy to keep linguists in business.
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clees
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response 539 of 823:
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May 17 14:50 UTC 2002 |
Conspiracy? Syl, a little paranoia can never hurt.
(only kidding)
I have to agree with you Syl.
Still nobody prescribed me anything. At first I resented them for it.
I am not sure why Dutch physicians (thanks, but I am bound to forget
once again) are so reluctant in prescribing meds. The explanation I got
was that the dependancy issue always comes into play. But then, why
refraining from prescribing altogether? I certainly could have used it.
Im my perspective I needed sleepers bdly, and yes they are addicting.
I hope you will eventually grow out of it, Syl.
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edina
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response 540 of 823:
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May 17 14:57 UTC 2002 |
Actually Anne - many GP's do prescribe anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds
and then just send the patient on their way. I know of at least 5-6 people
it happens to. Pisses me off to NO end.
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jep
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response 541 of 823:
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May 17 17:01 UTC 2002 |
re #538: Is the medication helping you?
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rcurl
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response 542 of 823:
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May 17 17:03 UTC 2002 |
In a recently published extensive study of anti-depression drugs, it
was found that placebos (sugar pills) were slightly more effective than
any of the proprietary drugs, and patients that participated in the
study were helped more than those for whom the drugs were just prescribed.
One possible conclusion from the study is that the drugs are irrelevent
and it is the personal attention of those conducting the study that
was the effective treatment.
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grimaldi
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response 543 of 823:
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May 17 18:15 UTC 2002 |
My uncle tells me he has no cd's for the laptop computer.. so now I'm confused
and stuck and I need to install the Cd drivers so I can reinstall windows and
shit... grrr
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lynne
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response 544 of 823:
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May 17 18:27 UTC 2002 |
When I went in for depression, they immediately started me in on Zoloft and
therapy. The Zoloft is working really, really well after figuring out some
dosage issues (side effect is that I'm sleeping about 10 hours a night.
My appetite has changed, but I haven't gained any weight--I think I even lost
a couple pounds). The therapy was totally ineffective. The therapist I was
seeing has been trying to contact me about referring me to an outside
therapist, but I've been a bit too busy lately to call him back. I think
there's a general reluctance in there to talk to him again--I really didn't
like him enough to be talking about the things that were necessary. And now
I like him even less.
It doesn't surprise me that there's a big placebo effect with anti-depresants.
Just feeling like you're taking control and doing something to fight
depression is a good start.
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bhelliom
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response 545 of 823:
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May 17 18:34 UTC 2002 |
Re #541 I suppose it's truly to early to tell. I can remember my
doctor asking if the Wellbutrin (before it was used to this purpose) if
it had made me feel perkier. That was after three months, I think, and
it hadn't. I've only been taking the Celexa since 5/8, and there
hasn't ben much of a change, but it's only been a week, and the dosage
hasn't been increased yet. So, I'm biding my time.
Re #539: I don't think it's a matter of "growing out of it," Rick. If
this was someting I could do without meds, I would. And you may as
well know that it's not my psychologist that has come to this
conclusion, but two. It's simply that the first one to believe this
was the case was a friend who is a clinical psychologist. It's taken
25 years to get to this point, and it's not going to be over in six
months or even a year. Also remember, that I'm not simply taking
medication, but rather am doing this in conjunction with therapy. As
much as I know about myself and as much as I've learned in only 5
weeks, I've got plenty of issues to work through that contribute to
this. I do thank you for your support, though.
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other
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response 546 of 823:
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May 17 20:07 UTC 2002 |
My pretzel stick just completely disintegrated in my tea!
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response 547 of 823:
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May 17 20:46 UTC 2002 |
ewdasnastie.
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jazz
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response 548 of 823:
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May 17 23:06 UTC 2002 |
Neat. A super-saturated pretzel-tea solution.
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senna
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response 549 of 823:
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May 18 02:46 UTC 2002 |
#539: The reason Dutch physicians are so reluctant to issue prescriptions is
the same reason American physicians are so eager to: Money.
I've grown curious about what nationalized health programs offer their
citizens in the way of mental health care. What do they do in Amsterdam,
Rick?
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