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rcurl
response 520 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 01:49 UTC 2003

If "systemic" means present throughout, then the US has systemic racism. It
isn't universal, and it is largely outlawed, but *people* still have attitudes
that they put into effect in ways that escape the laws to discriminate against
members of other groups. This is, in fact, the flaw in the
anti-affirmative-action drives: eliminating affirmative action removes 
elements of favoratism toward mostly discriminated against minorities, but
they do not remove the discrimination. 
willcome
response 521 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 02:16 UTC 2003

By SYSTEMic, I mean as far as the SYSTEM goes.
rcurl
response 522 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 14:05 UTC 2003

Systemic has both meanings (which rather limits its use unless context can
indicate which is meant).
gull
response 523 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 16:30 UTC 2003

Re resp:493: So basically, the Bush Administration is cutting the same 
sort of deal with Libya that they've been calling Clinton a traitor for 
having made with North Korea?
klg
response 524 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 17:05 UTC 2003

Basically, no.
twenex
response 525 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 17:11 UTC 2003

Or rather, yes.
mcnally
response 526 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 17:23 UTC 2003

  re #523:  While I think that the Libya deal is basically grandstanding,
  I disagree with your characterization as (a) I am unaware of any instance
  of an official of the Bush administration characterizing Clinton as a
  traitor while acting in their capacity as a member of the administration,
  and (b) the deal with Libya is supposed to include an inspections regimen
  if I understand it correctly.  It's too early to tell whether the
  inspection plan will be any more successful than the one that North Korea
  was supposed to abide by.  Also (c) as far as we know Libya is not getting
  its payment up front for this change, the way North Korea did under the
  so-called Agreed Framework.
klg
response 527 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 18:02 UTC 2003

Unlike N. Korea, which is already well-armed - possibly with nuclear 
weapons - Libya does not have a major population which it can hold 
hostage in a standoff.  This would, basically, allow the U.S. to handle 
it as we handled Iraq.  There is, therefore, little reason to presume 
that we would succumb to N. Korean-type blackmail.  Is there?
klg
response 528 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 22 18:05 UTC 2003

(Assuming, of course, that neither How-weird or Weasly is elected.)
willcome
response 529 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 23 06:00 UTC 2003

Re. 522:  Please, please, leave the definitions to the more than capable
Mister McNally.
rcurl
response 530 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 04:37 UTC 2003

I leave the definitions to the even more competent ODE. 
gelinas
response 531 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 04:40 UTC 2003

OED?
rcurl
response 532 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 04:49 UTC 2003

ODE - Oxford Dictionary of English
gelinas
response 533 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 05:09 UTC 2003

Thanks.  :)
twenex
response 534 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 16:14 UTC 2003

Er, OED is correct.
jmsaul
response 535 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 22:16 UTC 2003

It certainly is.
tod
response 536 of 536: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 22:55 UTC 2003

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