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25 new of 870 responses total.
naftee
response 508 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:18 UTC 2005

Whoa!

-bash-2.05b$ w
 9:17PM  up 16 mins, 4 users, load averages: 0.32, 0.47, 0.44
USER    TTY FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
jor      p4 adsl-69-212-43-1  9:13PM     1 -csh
charcat  p5 64.31.11.168      9:15PM     0 /usr/local/bin/party_
krj      p6 dialup-4.229.123  9:16PM     0 /usr/local/bin/party_
bookie   p8 4.229.180.231     9:17PM     0 /usr/local/bin/bbs
-bash-2.05b$ party
party_ error: Cannot find your tty (/dev/ttyp7) in utmp

I'm here, but I'm NOT here.
naftee
response 509 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 02:22 UTC 2005

Not anymore :(
rksjr
response 510 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 06:06 UTC 2005

Attempts to access http://www.cyberspace.org/ from the Grex Lynx command 
line yields:

    Making HTTP connection to 216.93.104.35

followed by:

    Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.

gelinas
response 511 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 06:49 UTC 2005

The web proxy is still on the old network connection.
mcnally
response 512 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 07:31 UTC 2005

 re #507:  correction -- Pine *does* work, but when I launched it earlier
 today it took an inordinately long time to load (from 3-5 minutes..)
mcnally
response 513 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 07:59 UTC 2005

Since I advised him to enter it in the "System Problems" item in Agora
without giving sufficient info on how to do that, I'm reposting a response
entered by user cobalt in another Agora item:

> (89) #11/11:    CoBALT eins261 (cobalt)  Mon, Jan 24, 2005 (02:51)
>  Please pardon my off-topic question and I do not know how to post a new BBS
>  statement.  I hope someone will assist me.  My problem is simple: prior to
>  the GREX move to PROVIDE.NET I was able to "sign on" to Google. 
> 
>  Now I cannot.  LYNX won't even access the url, and LINKS says "no route
>  to host" when I attempt to access the SIGN IN  link.
>  
>  I am not aware of any imposition of restrictions regarding sign on to
>  Google.
> 
>  Please someone tell me what is wrong.
>  Thank you.
 
tsty
response 514 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 09:16 UTC 2005

grex's move is spectacular - thankxx to gelinas & others
gelinas
response 515 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 13:16 UTC 2005

The problem with google is probably related to the web proxy, which is still
on the DSL link.
davel
response 516 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 13:30 UTC 2005

Logging in (via ssh), I saw:
      mesg: Unable to find your tty (ttyp1) in utmp file
There is a mesg command in my .profile, but I don't understand this error.
I think I've seen it once or twice since the change to new Grex, but not
consistently.  (But I might be wrong about either part of that.)
gelinas
response 517 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 13:43 UTC 2005

mesg has to find our entries in utmp in order to properly update wrttmp.  Jan
discovered that OpenBSD apparenlty writes data to utmp later than it probably
should, so he added a delay and retry to mesg.  Either the delay is not
sufficiently long, or something else is going wrong.
gregb
response 518 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 16:37 UTC 2005

Others have said it already, but thanks for the move, Joe.  Backtalk's 
running faster than I've ever seen it.
cross
response 519 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 16:44 UTC 2005

This response has been erased.

keesan
response 520 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 16:55 UTC 2005

I have not received any mail from the outside world since some time yesterday.
I can send myself mail from grex.  Pine works.  A message sent to staff from
my non-grex address bounced back at 4:37 am this morning after trying for four
hours.
Has anyone else received outside mail today?
mcnally
response 521 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 18:49 UTC 2005

  I have confirmed Sindi's problem with mail by doing my own test.
  About an hour ago I sent a message to Grex from kpunet.net.

  Checking the outgoing mail queue on the kpunet server I can see
  that my mailer's connection to grex has been timed out and the
  message is deferred:

  DNS from the remote host:

  > # nslookup
  > > set type=mx
  > > cyberspace.org
  > Server:  localhost
  > Address:  127.0.0.1
  > 
  > cyberspace.org  preference = 10, mail exchanger = grex.cyberspace.org
  > 
  > > set type=a
  > > grex.cyberspace.org
  > 
  > Name:    grex.cyberspace.org
  > Address:  216.86.77.194

  Attempt to connect to Grex's mail daemon:

  > # telnet grex.cyberspace.org smtp
  > Trying 216.86.77.194...
  > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
gull
response 522 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 19:26 UTC 2005

tcptraceroute to Grex on port 25 (the SMTP port) ends at
ypsi-sfld.provide.net (216.86.64.2)

tcptraceroute to Grex on port 80 shows that ypsi-sfld.provide.net is the
last hop before Grex.  Looks like Grex's firewall is blocking port 25.
albaugh
response 523 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 19:39 UTC 2005

The following happened when telnetting and trying to connect as usual via
cyberspace.org     The problem did not happen when immediately afterward I
connected via grex.org     :


Connected to cyberspace.org

Grex central timekeeping.  At the beep, the time is
 2:25PM on Monday, 24 January 2005

New to grex?  Type help at the login prompt

(ttyt6) grex login: albaugh
albaugh's Password:
This is NOT grex.  Please use the domain name, not the IP address.

Dial-in Users:  It will take a little bit longer to get the terminal
server properly configured.  We apologise for the inconvenience.
                                                        - Grex Staff.
Connection closed by foreign host.
albaugh
response 524 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:23 UTC 2005

I just verified that the problem is repeatable - it wasn't a one-time glitch.
albaugh
response 525 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:24 UTC 2005

What the hell happened?  I came back to bbs, and it says 91 new items!
What keeps destroying my agora participation file?!!!
mcnally
response 526 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:45 UTC 2005

re #525:
 I haven't had any problems with my Agora participation file.
 That proves nothing, of course, but it does suggest that people
 who are having problems should probably at the very least add
 the name of the program they're using to read Agora to help
 staff debug.

 I'm using "bbs" (whatever that's a front-end to these days) but
 others may be using backtalk, fronttalk, or possibly other programs
 to munge their conference participation files.
jor
response 527 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:56 UTC 2005

        I'm using "bbs' and my .agora??.cf sems to have
        gone away amd, more amazingly, come back. Twice.
gull
response 528 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:06 UTC 2005

Re resp:523: Looks like the name server you're using is still caching
Grex's old IP address.  The problem may resolve itself given a day or so.
albaugh
response 529 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:19 UTC 2005

I always use bbs, from a shell session, unless backtalk (web) must be used
due to shell inavailability.

Under nextgrex, what happens to your (a) conference participation file if you
get idle logged out?  In old grex, that was never a problem (you would have
to re-read the things before the logout happened, but you would lose your
entire participation record).
twenex
response 530 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:27 UTC 2005

I'm using bbs right now, but every time i try using the web interface, I get
the same problem as albaugh.
scholar
response 531 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:30 UTC 2005

http://www.thesameproblemasalbaughforjesus.org/
keesan
response 532 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 01:38 UTC 2005

Bbs, earlier today I also lost my agora.cf file and did a fixseen.
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