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Grex > Poetry3 > #245: The Spring Mysterious Quote item |  |
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remmers
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response 50 of 215:
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Mar 29 22:05 UTC 2001 |
Random guess: Joyce Carol Oates. (She seems to publish a new
book every month or so. ;-)
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arianna
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response 51 of 215:
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Mar 30 04:06 UTC 2001 |
re resp 25: Russ, please direct yourself to item 4, poetry1.
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brighn
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response 52 of 215:
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Mar 30 04:50 UTC 2001 |
Hmmm... the only real candidate at Amazon is Fielding; the subject matter
doesn't seem right though.
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slynne
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response 53 of 215:
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Apr 1 13:54 UTC 2001 |
Ok, here is another clue especially for the web searchers out there.
There is a big hint about the title of this book in the quote I posted.
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slynne
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response 54 of 215:
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Apr 4 14:47 UTC 2001 |
Ok, I guess this is too hard. I'll give the answer and post something
from a different author tomorrow.
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remmers
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response 55 of 215:
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Apr 7 15:13 UTC 2001 |
Yoo hoo, Ms Fremont - new quote, or hint, or something?
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slynne
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response 56 of 215:
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Apr 7 18:07 UTC 2001 |
ooops. I am going to go with a more well known author. ok, here goes:
During the sixties, my father was the perfect hippie, since all the
hippies were trying to be Indians. Because of that, how could anyone
recognize that my father was tyring to make a social statement?
But there is evidence, a photograph of my father demonstrating in
Spokane, Washington, during the Vietnam war. The photograph made it onto
the wire service and was reprinted in newspapers throughout the country,
in fact, it was on the cover of Time.
In the photograph, my father is dressed in bell-bottoms and flowered
shirt, his hair in braids, with red peace symbols splashed across his
face like war paint. In his hands my father holds a rifle above his
head, captured in that moment just before he proceeded to beat the shit
out of the National Guard private lying prone on the ground. A fellow
demonstrator holds a sign that is just barely visible over my father's
left shoulder. It read MAKE LOVE NOT WAR.
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remmers
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response 57 of 215:
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Apr 7 21:39 UTC 2001 |
(Hm, I'll have to think about that one. Who was the first
author you gave, by the way?)
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oddie
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response 58 of 215:
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Apr 7 21:46 UTC 2001 |
Sherman Alexie? (the newer one that is)
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happyboy
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response 59 of 215:
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Apr 7 22:10 UTC 2001 |
jesus that sounded familiar
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slynne
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response 60 of 215:
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Apr 8 04:32 UTC 2001 |
The first author was Suzanne Glass. The book was _Interpreter: A Novel_
I tried to pick a passage that would hint at the title. Oh well, I had
never heard of her either before I picked up her book at work.
oddie has correctly guessed Sherman Alexie. That quote was from a short
story called "Because My Father Always Said He Was the Only Indian Who
Saw Jimi Hendrix Play 'The Star-Spangled Banner' at Woodstock." which is
found in the collection of short stories entitled, _The Lone Ranger and
Tonto Fist Fight in Heaven_.
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ignatz
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response 61 of 215:
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Apr 8 04:37 UTC 2001 |
ok, i haven't been on in a while to read what people thought of my
correcting the idea of quote vs paragraph. but it was more on the
thoughts, that this being a "poetry conference" that these would be
single line to double line quotes, obscure of course, from poems. not
paragraphs, not whole stanzas then.
a quote would be...
"Life for me ain't been no crystal stair"
-Mother to Son :by Langston Hughes
not...
"By glow of the tail light i stumbled back of the car
and stood by the heap, a doe, a recent killing;
she had stiffened already, almost cold.
i dragged her off; she was large in the belly."
-Traveling through the Dark :by William Stafford
and leave out normal fiction or non-fiction arts, if they are not in
fact poetry. that's my opinion in this matter. this is poetry. let's
have fun with poetry, ok?
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gelinas
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response 62 of 215:
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Apr 8 04:52 UTC 2001 |
No, this is books, so let's have fun with books.
Actually, this item is in BOTH conferences. So it is going to have some
characteristics (and characters ;) of both.
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carson
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response 63 of 215:
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Apr 8 04:52 UTC 2001 |
(poor Erinn.) :^)
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brighn
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response 64 of 215:
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Apr 8 05:28 UTC 2001 |
#61> I'd agree with you if this weren't the only live item in this conference.
Until Poetry picks up, let it be.
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rcurl
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response 65 of 215:
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Apr 8 06:37 UTC 2001 |
ignatz, in the header for this item there is the expression (linked item).
This means that a conference fairwitness has brought the item into
their conference. I know that this item, on mysterious quotes, is now
linked between three conferenves - agora, books, and poetry ... and it
*might* be linked with many more, if people using other conferences
wish it. Therefore, one gets a rather eclectic group of participants
in linked items.
Historically, the Mysterious Quote began in agora a long time ago,
and the presumption was that a "quote" was any exact transcription of
any length from any writing.
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flem
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response 66 of 215:
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Apr 8 23:26 UTC 2001 |
*Actually*, this is in the agora conf, so let's have fun drifting about random
crap. ;)
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ignatz
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response 67 of 215:
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Apr 10 04:11 UTC 2001 |
well i'm finding it under the poetry conf, so if you've got it linked
through alot of stuff, then... "oops, my bad."
enjoy your drifting...
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carson
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response 68 of 215:
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Apr 10 04:26 UTC 2001 |
(musta missed the series of "linked to/from" right before your
first post about quoting.) :I
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ignatz
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response 69 of 215:
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Apr 10 04:44 UTC 2001 |
oh well...
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rcurl
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response 70 of 215:
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Apr 10 18:00 UTC 2001 |
It might help for linkers to post a response stating what was linked
to what, after they do it. I don't recall that being done in this case,
though it may have been, but I have noticed other links being created
with no announcement.
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carson
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response 71 of 215:
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Apr 10 20:43 UTC 2001 |
resp:70
(resp:12 resp:13 resp:14 ... and you started it.) :P
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ignatz
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response 72 of 215:
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Apr 11 04:13 UTC 2001 |
ok, well yes i must have glossed over those... so it seems that i owe
an apology people holding this quote thingy.
however i still am going to argue the "quote" misconception.
""" the presumption was that a "quote" was any exact transcription of
any length from any writing. """
due to the fact that if a quote is an exact transcription of any
length, than a whole book, in theory, is a quote about itself.
this can not be however. look up in a thesaurus, and the word quote is
described in the following:
cite;excerpot;evaluate;review;price;rate;charge.
now, price;rat and charge have little or nothing to do with literature.
this is all for money concepts of the world.
but cite and excerpt are usually defined as (cite) refering to a
source, and (excerpt) a slight selection of.
evaluate can not mean quote here either, due to everyone having own
opinions about issues. such as my issue on the "quote" thing.
review, well this also is close to evaluate, however saying 'boy
watched dog run' would be a good review of "See Spot Run." and thus we
would have a differnt kind of game here.
the only time i think necessary to quote a whole paragraph would be
when someone is quoting spoken word.
i think of quote as a movie quote. a single to double sentenced line of
words or actions. but to make it any longer than that, would be only to
make things easier to figure out. but hey, that's my opinion. you don't
have to listen to it, think it over and possibly alter your rules, or
not. but i was once told, that if you never make yourself heard, then
no one will know what to think of you, for good or for bad.
do with it what you will. and again, i apologize for any incovience
i've been, and from here on out, i shall remain silent. (unless any one
feels i shouldn't be silent.) -ignatz_zwakh
2071
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rcurl
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response 73 of 215:
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Apr 11 05:48 UTC 2001 |
A thesaurus is not a dictionary.
That's his opinion (as he says).
I guess I should have inserted the word "selection" in my definition. Still,
if someone wants to quote the *whole text* of something someone has
written, then it is still a quote. The real significance of a "quote"
is that it is an exact transcription, as opposed to a paraphrase or
an abridgement (or, elaboration).
When all else fails, we turn to the dictionary:
"quote noun A quotation" (Aha! Now we are getting somewhere!)
"quotation noun A passage from a book or writing, cited or adduced."
(Now we need to know what a passage is.......)
"passage noun A separate portion of a discourse, treatise, or writing: a
clause, verse, paragraph, or similar division"
(That does seem to narrow it down to less than the whole work, but what
is a "similar division"? A chapter? A book?)
Then, there is common usage. Here it means - a passage of any length that
is tolerable to the participants in The Mysterious Quote.
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carson
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response 74 of 215:
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Apr 11 08:47 UTC 2001 |
<carson wonders if oddie has a new quote>
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