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mcnally
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response 50 of 102:
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Feb 9 07:23 UTC 2004 |
What on earth does it mean to make a sound that "cannot be copied in
analog fashion"?
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ryan
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response 51 of 102:
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Feb 9 16:27 UTC 2004 |
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krj
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response 52 of 102:
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Feb 9 17:28 UTC 2004 |
Sorry, I'm not writing clearly. The DarkNoise company claims their
process introduces unpleasant artifacts in copies made either
digitally or via "the analog hole," even to ordinary cassette tape.
One can make copies, but they are not enjoyable to listen to, claims
DarkNoise. The Stereophile page linked above has links to DarkNoise's
pages which don't sound like peer-reviewed research to me.
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mcnally
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response 53 of 102:
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Feb 9 19:50 UTC 2004 |
Ken, it's not you that's being unclear -- that's pretty much what
I understood your text to say. It's DarkNoise's claim that the
music will sound one way when you listen to it and another way
when re-recorded on analog equipment that's confusing and nonsensical.
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krj
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response 54 of 102:
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Feb 9 20:03 UTC 2004 |
Stereophile's writer said this was theoretically possible, but the
magnitude of the modifications required to the original sound are
so great as to be pretty audible.
For an example, think back to making a cassette tape off a really warped
record. Record warp creates an inaudible low-frequency pulse which you
could see on the tape deck's recording level meters; in severe cases,
the subsonic warp signal could overload the tape, resulting in nasty
distortion. (The solution was a subsonic filter, and I can't remember
which box those filters were packed in when I last moved, dammit.)
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krj
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response 55 of 102:
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Feb 9 22:00 UTC 2004 |
Tower Records has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, protection from creditors.
Stories are everywhere, so I won't bother with a link. Some stories say that
this process is just to push the few reluctant creditors into a sale deal,
and we should know soon who will be controlling Tower.
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The Australian music industry has organized raids on the offices of
Kazaa's corporate parent, the homes of their executives, and several
universities and ISPs. The Aussie music industry believes that recent,
unspecified-in-the-press changes in Kazaa make it vulnerable to
this copyright action in Australia.
There are better stories in the Aussie media, but this is all I have on screen
right now:
http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5155848.html?tag=nefd_top
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mcnally
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response 56 of 102:
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Feb 9 22:38 UTC 2004 |
According to a recent Slashdot article, the Australians are currently
negotiating a trade agreement with the US that includes them moving to
"US-style copyrights." Keeping in mind what an unverified report on
Slashdot is worth, I nevertheless wonder if the sudden moves against
Kazaa are entirely coincidental.
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dbratman
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response 57 of 102:
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Feb 10 00:52 UTC 2004 |
"One can make copies, but they are not enjoyable to listen to."
That shouldn't be difficult to arrange, as it's already true of many of
the original recordings.
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mcnally
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response 58 of 102:
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Feb 10 01:09 UTC 2004 |
ba-dum-bump!
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krj
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response 59 of 102:
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Feb 10 08:02 UTC 2004 |
I have an unconfirmed rumor that the Tower Records store in
the Detroit suburb of Birmingham will be closed as part of the
bankruptcy reorganization. Michigan folks might want to keep
their eyes peeled for a store-closing sale, although there were
no great bargains when Tower closed its locations in Ann Arbor
and East Lansing.
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thorn
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response 60 of 102:
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Feb 10 23:14 UTC 2004 |
I prey for cheep cds
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bhoward
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response 61 of 102:
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Feb 13 03:57 UTC 2004 |
Did you bag any?
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krj
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response 62 of 102:
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Feb 15 01:49 UTC 2004 |
A couple of stories suggest the music wars are evolving along lines
similar to the war on drugs:
LA Times reports that students are learning to keep their heads down,
not share files for others to download, and are then just downloading
all they want:
Title: "So Not Intimidated"
http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-ca-day15feb15,1,1149916.story?
coll=la-home-style
Meanwhile, from the University of Maryland student paper:
"A harassment complaint was filed Wednesday to protect the student
who reported popular file-sharing hub, Direct Connect to authorities
and set of a wave of student anger, University Police officials
confirmed yesterday."
http://www.inform.umd.edu/News/Diamondback/archives/2004/02/13/news3.html
((Can you say "narc," boys and girls?))
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mcnally
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response 63 of 102:
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Feb 15 04:57 UTC 2004 |
The labels and the RIAA may, in the end, be able to stop the downloading
services and the filesharing networks. And maybe that will be enough,
from their standpoint. I doubt they'll ever be able to stop friends from
sharing with friends, however..
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gull
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response 64 of 102:
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Feb 15 05:04 UTC 2004 |
They lost that battle when they were unable to stop the sale of blank
cassette tapes. I don't think they see it as hurting their business
that much, now. It's certainly not as much of a threat as the
widespread copying that systems lika Kazaa facilitate.
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mcnally
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response 65 of 102:
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Feb 15 08:17 UTC 2004 |
The digital-to-digital copying technology available to consumers
nowadays, though, is substantially less limiting than the analog-to-
analog copies from the cassette tape ere, as anyone who ever listened
to a hissy nth-generation copy can tell you.
Unfortunately for the record companies, even if they succeed in making
the digital original uncopy-able, they'll never again be protected by
multi-generation quality loss, since any first generation analog rip
will be converted to digital and distributed digitally thereafter without
further loss.
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gull
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response 66 of 102:
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Feb 15 16:37 UTC 2004 |
That's true, but I'm not sure how great the impact of that really is.
Most people don't seem to care that much about quality. Most of my
friends say they can't tell the difference between good stereo speakers
and $5 computer speakers, for example.
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krj
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response 67 of 102:
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Feb 19 15:12 UTC 2004 |
We never even mentioned the February round of lawsuits from the RIAA
against suspected "John Doe" defendants for sharing music files.
Another 531 lawsuits this month; a curious number, given that there
were 532 suits in January. I'm not going to dredge around for a link;
use news.google.com and search for "RIAA" if you want a citation.
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goose
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response 68 of 102:
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Feb 19 20:39 UTC 2004 |
RIAA Countersued Under Racketeering Laws
Posted by simoniker on Wednesday February 18, @10:17PM
from the prohibition-is-on dept.
Negadin writes "According to CNET News, a New Jersey woman, one of the
hundreds of people accused of copyright infringement by the Recording Industry
Association of America, has countersued the big record labels, charging them
with extortion and violations of the federal antiracketeering act." The
woman's attornies are arguing that "...by suing file-swappers for copyright
infringement, and then offering to settle instead of pursuing a case where
liability could reach into the hundreds of thousands of dollars, the RIAA is
violating the same laws that are more typically applied to gangsters and
organized crime."
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/19/0124218&mode=nested
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mcnally
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response 69 of 102:
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Feb 19 20:50 UTC 2004 |
I doubt the courts will agree with her reasoning but I wish her
lots of luck..
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tod
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response 70 of 102:
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Feb 19 22:07 UTC 2004 |
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krj
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response 71 of 102:
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Feb 20 01:38 UTC 2004 |
This news story reports sketchy rumors and whatnot that Napster might not be
doing so well. Executives are jumping ship, and record company sources say
Napster 2.0 is only selling about 1/4 as many tracks as Apple iTunes.
Staff are being laid off.
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/7988684.htm
"Smiles Fade At Napster"
The article mentions the pre-paid Napster download cards you can now buy --
perhaps for your kid who doesn't have a credit card -- and I did see those for
sale at a Kroger's grocery store in Lansing.
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twinkie
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response 72 of 102:
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Feb 20 18:42 UTC 2004 |
Target sells them, as well.
Although, Target also sells prepaid iTunes cards.
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gelinas
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response 73 of 102:
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Feb 21 01:27 UTC 2004 |
(The Feds have used RICO against anti-arbortion groups; make sense folks would
try it against RIAA. I'd guess anti-trust action will be next.)
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gull
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response 74 of 102:
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Feb 21 04:41 UTC 2004 |
I think anti-trust action was already tried, and failed.
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