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srw
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response 50 of 175:
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Nov 28 08:23 UTC 1998 |
I have just added support on Grex for a new time zone. Many of our users
come from India, but our version of SunOS had no zoneinfo file for it. I
added one, so you can now get Grex to tell time in IST. Just set your TZ
environment variable to India. If your shell is BBS or a bourne-based
shell you probably want to put the command in your .profile file. use
export TZ=India
If your shell is lynx, menu, C-shell or a derivative, you need to put
setenv TZ India
in your .login file. of course you can just type the appropriate command
to see its effect on the date command and ls -l command, without putting
it in your dotfile, if you are merely curious.
there are many other supported zones. Look in /usr/share/lib/zoneinfo
By default, if you don't set TZ, you get Grex's time, by the way.
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remmers
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response 51 of 175:
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Nov 28 12:12 UTC 1998 |
Thanks for the info about TZ, Steve. In looking over the directory, it
seems appropriate for me to do
setenv TZ US/Michigan
(There don't exist corresponding symbols for all the states, though.)
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srw
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response 52 of 175:
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Nov 30 02:04 UTC 1998 |
Michigan has a separate data file from the rest of the time zone because
Michigan did not observe daylight savings from 1968 to 1973. With
TZ set to US/Michigan, historical dates will be interpreted according to
the rules in place for Michigan at the time.
The source code for US/Michigan can be found in the text file
/usr/share/lib/zoneinfo/northamerica
Grex uses TZ=EST5EDT which is the same as TZ=US/Eastern, so incorrectly
interprets times as EDT during the Spring and Summer months of
1968-1973, when the Eastern time zone honored daylight time, but
Michigan was still on EST.
Arizona, Eastern Indiana, and Alaska have their own time zones, because
they have their own time rules, to this day.
If someone is in a country which we do not support, or do not support
correctly, I will be happy to make the additions or corrections. Most of
the data in there is from the SunOS release many years ago, so recent
time rule changes are not likely to be there unless we put them in.
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mcnally
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response 53 of 175:
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Nov 30 05:10 UTC 1998 |
nifty.. I always wondered why Michigan commonly got its own zoneinfo
file.. Now that I think about it I even remember my first year of
kindergarten, which was the last year Michigan didn't observe DST.
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davel
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response 54 of 175:
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Nov 30 13:00 UTC 1998 |
Hmph. We moved here in June, 1973, & I don't remember Michigan's not changing
to DST.
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keesan
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response 55 of 175:
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Nov 30 17:34 UTC 1998 |
A friend in NW Indiana tried to explain their time zones to us, in fact he
had written a paper for school once on the subject. I recall that a small
portion of the state near Chicago (whose inhabitants presumably commute to
Chicago) was in the Chicago time zone.
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rcurl
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response 56 of 175:
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Nov 30 17:49 UTC 1998 |
And I moved here in 1964, and also do not recall ever not being on DST.
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bruin
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response 57 of 175:
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Nov 30 21:25 UTC 1998 |
RE #56 I do believe that Michigan and Northwest Ohio (Toledo area) were on
Eastern Standard Time year round until it was decided that the entire United
States would be on Daylight Time in 1966-67. Michigan went on EDT in June
of 1967 or thereabouts, and was on Daylight Time during the summer of 1968.
In November of that year, voters rejected Daylight Time, but it was voted in
for the 1972 ballot, never to be voted down again (so far).
Other major headaches that Michigan had faced on year round EST was the fact
that the Toledo (Ohio) area and Windsor, Ontario, each went on EDT during the
summers of 1969-72, resulting in time checks on CKLW giving both Detroit and
Windsor times (or the elusive "40 minutes past the hour").
As a final note, during the Energy Crisis of the mid-late 1970's, the United
States was on Daylight Savings Time year round. This was quickly repealed
after complaints about 9:00 am sunrises and such.
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scott
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response 58 of 175:
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Nov 30 21:42 UTC 1998 |
A lot of Indiana is still *not* on daylight time. I have a customer which
changes relative time zones twice a year.
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keesan
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response 59 of 175:
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Nov 30 22:42 UTC 1998 |
I prefer a 9 am sunrise to a 3:30 pm sunset, as found in Boston winters.
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rcurl
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response 60 of 175:
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Nov 30 22:54 UTC 1998 |
Thanks, bruin - shows how unimportant it has been to me over the years
that DST came/went for a while in '64-'72.
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i
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response 61 of 175:
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Dec 1 01:07 UTC 1998 |
I've got a supplier who's order-must-print-by-5PM-to-ship-today warehouse
is in that murky part of Indiana....
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remmers
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response 62 of 175:
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Dec 1 09:42 UTC 1998 |
The polls are open through December 15 in the Grex Board of Directors
election. To cast a ballot or just to get more info on the election
and candidates, type "vote" at a Unix prompt or "!vote" at a bbs or menu
prompt. On the web, go to http://cyberspace.org/cgi-bin/pw/voting-booth
to do the same.
Any user can cast a ballot, but only the votes of Grex members in
good standing will be counted in determining the outcome.
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remmers
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response 63 of 175:
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Dec 1 09:46 UTC 1998 |
Also - you can vote more than once. If you've cast a ballot and later
change your mind about who you want to vote for, just vote again.
Your new ballot replaces the previous one.
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albaugh
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response 64 of 175:
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Dec 1 19:52 UTC 1998 |
Vote early & often! :-)
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valerie
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response 65 of 175:
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Dec 2 03:14 UTC 1998 |
This response has been erased.
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jiffer
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response 66 of 175:
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Dec 2 04:43 UTC 1998 |
oh! three! I thought it was two! I should revote. Nifty keenies!
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janc
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response 67 of 175:
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Dec 2 06:49 UTC 1998 |
A weird request:
Someone in California has offered to donate a computer to Grex. This
is a machine similar to the one we are now running on, but in a bigger
chassis. If this goes through (it's not sure yet), they'd be willing
to ship us all the innards, but the shipping the chassis would
probably be too costly. We're not completely sure we want the chassis
(it's a bit of a white elephant), but it might be neat. If our
representative could show up with a truck (you could probably move
the thing in a pickup) before December 15, they'd let us take the
whole thing away.
So we were curious whether anyone who owned or could borrow a truck
felt like driving to California and back to fetch a computer chassis
that we may or may not actually want (we definately want its innards).
I'm not sure that this would be a sane thing to do, but it never
hurts to ask. I think we could come up with gas money.
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scott
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response 68 of 175:
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Dec 2 11:55 UTC 1998 |
Jan, would it fit in the back of a car? I think by saying "truck" you
make it sound like something refrigerator-sized.
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remmers
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response 69 of 175:
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Dec 2 13:43 UTC 1998 |
Colleen McGee (cmcgee) has indicated that she is not available to serve
on the Board. I'll remove her name from the ballot as soon as I get a
chance. Members who voted for her might wish to re-vote.
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rcurl
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response 70 of 175:
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Dec 2 16:03 UTC 1998 |
Where in CA? How big is (are) the thing(s), and how much do it (they) weigh
(approx). I can inquire on mailinglists in CA for people driving east.
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rcurl
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response 71 of 175:
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Dec 2 16:04 UTC 1998 |
Oh yes - and how much is the 'gas money' offer?
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aruba
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response 72 of 175:
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Dec 2 17:50 UTC 1998 |
Yeah, at $.33/mile (which was the standard for mileage last I heard) the trip
from California is worth about $990, which we are clearly *not* willing to
pay.
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dpc
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response 73 of 175:
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Dec 2 19:15 UTC 1998 |
I voted!
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keesan
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response 74 of 175:
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Dec 2 23:07 UTC 1998 |
I thought CA was about 2000 not 3000 mile, making gas $670 or so, or is this
the far south of CA? Maybe a grex member living in CA would be willing to
pick up the chassis and store it until someone drove east? I once chatted
with someone in CA (from India, of course). Put this in the motd?
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