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senna
response 50 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 15:22 UTC 1998

Colleen, that may be because they sent mail to cyberspace.org while mail was
down and marcus was cleaning out spam.
tpryan
response 51 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 16:14 UTC 1998

        What just happened here at noon time with load number to past
36.0 instead of more normal 3.0?  It sure made GREX intolerable.
valerie
response 52 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 16:59 UTC 1998

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senna
response 53 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 00:51 UTC 1998

Actually, the slowdown reminded me of what grex used to be like on the old
computer more than anything else.
keesan
response 54 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 02:42 UTC 1998

Got right to the webpage for newusers this time, Valerie.
I was using Vanilla to enter a response in Backtalk, after reading that
Pistachio could not be used with lynx.  I have not tried to use it, since I
was told that I could not.  Do you want to check if it is possible, and then
if it is, change the instructions?  I would still like to retitle an item.
And why do you have to go to the website to retitle an item instead of doing
it directly, after dialing in or telnetting in?
remmers
response 55 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 13:34 UTC 1998

The pistachio interface uses an HTML facility called "frames", which 
lynx probably doesn't support.

Dialup/telnet and web connections use Picospan and Backtalk, 
respectively, for accessing the conferences. These are entirely 
different pieces of software. Picospan doesn't support retitling items, 
and since we don't have source code for Picospan, we can't change that.

I would think, though, that it would be possible to write a special 
purpose standalone privileged program that would do the same retitling 
that Backtalk does and could be invoked from the shell. So I suppose the 
real answer to your last question is that nobody has gotten around to 
doing the necessary programming. It shouldn't be hard to do - it would 
be a matter of lifting the relevant source code from Backtalk and 
repackaging it to work as a standalone command.
keesan
response 56 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 18:33 UTC 1998

Do I also have to use Pistachio to kill an item that I started?  Or can it
be done by a command from the Unix prompt?  (Classified items that sold).
richard
response 57 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 22:19 UTC 1998

I have a Backtalk query-- these days I backtalk more than I telnet and I 
find it frustrating that when I log into grex via backtalk, backtalk 
will not tell me if I have mail waiting.  Can backtalk not be programmed 
to check the mail ques just as Picospan does when one logs on via 
telnet?  

Why not add a button to the backtalk entrance screen that says 
"See if you have incoming mail?"  Then one could click if he/she wanted 
to check, and if there was mail waiting, they would know they should log 
back in via telnet.

fungster
response 58 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 06:13 UTC 1998

I've been kicked off twice now (once in the queue when I was in
the queue and only three were ahead of the line and one while
readingthe coop conference.) Both times, the result I got from the
telnet program (I telnet into a VAX before here) is:
%TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 204.212.46.130
%TELNET-E-CONNFAIL, Failed to connect to remote host
-SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable     
And, in the next minute after I get kicked, I can't
reach Grex, but after the minute all is fine and I'm back at the
end of the line :-( (all this was was within the last half hour)

BTW, lynx does support frames, although you have to toggle back
and forth to the frameset page.
remmers
response 59 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 17:22 UTC 1998

Pistachio keeps navigation buttons in a separate frame from item text.
In a graphical browser, this is quite convenient, because the navigation
buttons remain visible as the text is scrolled. If you have to toggle
back and forth to see different frames in lynx, you lose the
convenience.
senna
response 60 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 14 18:57 UTC 1998

They do?  Is this a new modification?  I was always annoyed with the fact that
I had to scroll to get to the navigation buttons before.
hhsrat
response 61 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 01:33 UTC 1998

I am using pistachio, and I can say for sure that I am not in any 
frames.  I have never seen frames when using backtalk.
senna
response 62 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 05:04 UTC 1998

That's what I thought.  I've never seen them easier, but I usually use
picospan while dialed in.
scott
response 63 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 10:38 UTC 1998

The frames in pistachio are not visible, but there nonetheless.  The buttons
at the top are in a frame.
senna
response 64 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 14:39 UTC 1998

Is it possible to put the buttons in a visible frame that doesn't scroll? 
It seems that that would be rather helpful.
valerie
response 65 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 15:05 UTC 1998

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remmers
response 66 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 23:03 UTC 1998

Re resp:64 - To enable frames in Pistachio, go to the Entrance Page,
click on the "Personal Info" link, then on the "Set Options" link. On
the form that comes up, you can select whether or not you want frames.
Select "Yes". Then the navigation buttons will appear in a visible frame
that doesn't scroll.
saw
response 67 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 01:06 UTC 1998

Re rest:58 and resp:65 :  I've not had that problem with Grex, although
I *have* had a problem with being dumped.  I start typing something then
backspace and then decide to hit CTRL+C and it closes the connection.  I've
had this happen 2 or 3 times, but I've never been able to recreate the
problem.  In other words, when I *try* to get booted, it doesn't work, but
when I least expect it, boom!  Also, there have been times when Grex just
stops, but usually it starts working after a few minutes.  This is probably
due to either (1) some route between me and Grex broke temporarily or (2)
Grex's ISDN link dropped and has to redial..  other than that, I have no
problems using Grex.  (And really I don't consider those untolerable
problems.)
senna
response 68 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 05:15 UTC 1998

Really?  I had no idea that Pistachio was configurable.
rywfol
response 69 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 07:31 UTC 1998

I'm using Pistachio for the first time right now, having previously 
always used PicoSpan, and I'm amazed at how smooth it is.
This is going to make conferencing a lot easier.
valerie
response 70 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 13:57 UTC 1998

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keesan
response 71 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 01:05 UTC 1998

Does anyone know why today we cannot download, using Ymodem (batch) or
Kermit, from home directory or email to our computer?  It worked yesterday
and suddenly all attempts Abort.  We have to get this woring withi two days.
Thanks.
kentn
response 72 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 01:13 UTC 1998

Is that on a dialup connection?
dsmith
response 73 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 01:24 UTC 1998

Yes, long distance dialup from N. Ohio.  I can upload just fine but cannot
download.  I tried this account and my own (this is Keesan typing).  Kermit
and Ymodem.  Ymodem worked yesterday okay.  I could upload a file and then
not download the same file, it Aborted.  We have only a dialup connection,
and an expensive one at that.  Any ideas?  Kent, can you try sb filename etc
and see if you can make it work and email us about what happens?  Use this
email address, please.  Thanks
janc
response 74 of 181: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 02:33 UTC 1998

(Using frames with Backtalk slows it down considerably, but it is kind
of nice not to have the buttons scroll off your screen all the time.  I
made them default off on Grex back when the net connection was really
really slow, and still haven't been tempted to change that.  Yes, there
are several things you can configure in Pistachio Backtalk.  Perhaps not
as many as one would like.)
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