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Grex > Coop8 > #63: Making "Intro" the default conference | |
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rcurl
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response 50 of 126:
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May 9 07:13 UTC 1996 |
I still don't think of intro as a place that one remains, but only
where one gets a feel for the place, and then goes where one wants.
The option to remain in intro or choose agora as the login shell (if
its not a unix shell) can be made in newuser before getting into either
intro or agora, or in intro, where more explanation can be given. I
think the latter is better, as the more experienced user will get to
where he/she wants to go pretty quickly on their own, while a real newbie
*needs* the help that intro will give.
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tsty
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response 51 of 126:
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May 9 10:51 UTC 1996 |
as said elsewhere, i like intro.cf and see no particular problem with
having both agora and intro as a default combination. Also if all the
links in intro.cf identified teh source conference, it might aid in
livining up the conference activity as ppl join the source conference
to find out other stuff.
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remmers
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response 52 of 126:
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May 9 18:51 UTC 1996 |
If we're going to experiment with "intro" as a new default, I
sure would like us to decide on a definite point in time at which
to terminate the experiment and review the results. At that time
we'd discuss whether to continue with intro as the default, go
back to agora as the default, or try some other experiment.
(If you're going to be experimental, you usually don't limit
yourself to trying just one thing.)
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kerouac
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response 53 of 126:
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May 9 23:41 UTC 1996 |
Why cant it be set up so newbies who have had intro as default for
a while can bring up a menu screen and can pick from any of the confs
of grex to be their default. When they know which ones they like
the best they will know which they want to see first. I dont think
they should be limited to having either intro or agora as default.
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davel
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response 54 of 126:
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May 10 12:15 UTC 1996 |
It would also be well to decide in advance what we're looking for as success
or failure of the experiment. We can't anticipate everything, but if we have
*no* idea then why bother?
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arianna
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response 55 of 126:
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May 10 23:04 UTC 1996 |
Now that I have an item linked in intro, I'm saying, go for it. (;
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robh
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response 56 of 126:
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May 10 23:59 UTC 1996 |
<robh thinks he's found an easy way to get votes >8) >
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selena
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response 57 of 126:
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May 11 00:27 UTC 1996 |
No, let intro be the sole new cf.
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carson
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response 58 of 126:
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May 11 07:22 UTC 1996 |
re #0: make it happen.
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tsty
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response 59 of 126:
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May 12 14:31 UTC 1996 |
why sole default conference? Particularily since the *ource* cf is
unidentifiable????
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popcorn
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response 60 of 126:
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May 12 16:32 UTC 1996 |
Re 59: Rob always says where he linked items from. It should be OK.
I like Mark's (aruba's) idea of asking newbies which conference they would
like to be in. I could see putting a wrapper around picospan where if a user
has neither an agora participation file nor an intro participation file, the
script describes the two conferences and asks the user which conference they
would like to defauult to. Then it sets up a one-line .cflist file that says
in it either "agora" or "intro". The next time the user started picospan,
they'd go directly to that conference, without being asked. That would work,
but it might slow down starting Picospan for everybody, which I'd rather not
do. But something along those lines could work....
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kerouac
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response 61 of 126:
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May 12 22:50 UTC 1996 |
But valerie, why must newbies be limited in their default options to
agora or intro? They may want some other conf as default
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selena
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response 62 of 126:
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May 12 23:40 UTC 1996 |
Yeah, if you're gonna bother putting in another choice, give them a broader
scope. (Selena volunteers Sexuality II)
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srw
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response 63 of 126:
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May 13 01:41 UTC 1996 |
I *don't* like the idea of asking newbies what conference they want.
I think they should get intro, and once they are educated and have some
experience, and don't need intro anymore, they can decide for themselves.
Intro could even have an item in it about graduating from intro, and picking
one's own default conference. But that is the time for it, not when they
first take out their account.
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aruba
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response 64 of 126:
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May 13 04:24 UTC 1996 |
I disagree with you Steve, on the basis that I believe in giving the user a
choice to go to an unmoderated, free-for-all conference if that's what he
wants. After all, that's what the rest of Grex is; Intro is rather unique in
being moderated. Newusers will get a *very* different impression of Grex,
based on which conference they start in. (I guess that's the whole point of
this exercise.) And the fact is, people have different tastes, and some may
like one better than the other. Why do you want to force everyone to start
in the same place?
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scg
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response 65 of 126:
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May 13 05:13 UTC 1996 |
I agree with Mark. It's worth noting that not all people new to Grex area
also new to conferencing. There are plenty of other conferencing systems out
there.
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rcurl
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response 66 of 126:
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May 13 05:45 UTC 1996 |
It has already been said by several people, several times, that newusers
should be able to choose to start in intro, agora, any other cf, or a
shell - though with the options tabulated. "If you are unfamiliar with
conferencing, chose 'intro'", etc. I even thought Steve had said this at
one time 8^}. We can *urge* users toward conferencing, but if a user
just wants unix or menu or lynx, I don't want to stand in their way.
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brighn
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response 67 of 126:
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May 13 07:40 UTC 1996 |
Between the last item and this one, i changed my mind...
amazing what proper argumentation can do.
I agree now with the choice side... let them specify agora, intro,
or any other cf, but put in a note suggesting intro
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robh
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response 68 of 126:
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May 13 10:29 UTC 1996 |
That's what I'd be inclined to do.
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popcorn
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response 69 of 126:
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May 13 13:35 UTC 1996 |
<grin> I'm pro-choice! :)
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kerouac
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response 70 of 126:
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May 14 00:35 UTC 1996 |
I think maybe the board should vote on this, but I'm pro-choice too
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adbarr
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response 71 of 126:
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May 14 02:28 UTC 1996 |
I don't think the board should cast votes on kerouac's personal beliefs.
He is entitled to them without the sanction of the board. ;-)
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brighn
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response 72 of 126:
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May 14 03:31 UTC 1996 |
I think he wants the vote so that he can go against the
board's wishes, whatever those may be, and give us five screens
of argumentation. It's a forensics exercise.
Humor him. =}
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srw
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response 73 of 126:
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May 14 03:58 UTC 1996 |
I am not convinced that newbies will have any idea how to answer the question.
Just as there are so many other questions they are asked that they have no
idea how to answer. We are not trying to make it easier for those who already
know what conferencing is all about. They can change anything we set up.
Go ahead and ask, but please lead them to intro if they are the slightest bit
confused. A message like "If you don't understand this question, choose
intro" would suffice. I will go along.
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aruba
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response 74 of 126:
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May 14 04:39 UTC 1996 |
That's what I was thinking of.
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