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ajax
response 50 of 90: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 07:40 UTC 1996

Don't forget about N81 patches for Grex T-shirt upgrades!  :-)
We really would need to reprint fliers and maybe scribble in the
correction in the Grex Handbooks.
jep
response 51 of 90: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 16:19 UTC 1996

        7E1 is very rare these days.  I'll bet a lot of potential new dial-up
users are totally baffled when they try to log in and get a lot of garbage
on the screen instead of characters.  I agree with Aaron that it's
important.  I'd put a pretty high priority on it, were I on the staff.
(But that's easy to say, isn't it?  (-:  )
rcurl
response 52 of 90: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 18:02 UTC 1996

I've been using 8N1 for the past couple of years - 7E1 caused up/download
problems. (I'm told that Versaterm strips the high bit, or takes it in
its mouth, or something like that, though.)
janc
response 53 of 90: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 22:53 UTC 1996

If lots of dial-in users have the similar modems to mine (a Zoom v.34), 7E1
is the least of their problems.  When I hit one of the Supra modems it hangs
up immediately after connecting about 60% of the time.  Then about 35% of the
time, it connects, but with error correction set wrong, so I have to send it
one to four breaks before it starts making sense.  I suspect most newusers
don't know that they should send breaks, or how to do so.  Then 3% of the
time it connects in some gobblety-gook mode where even breaks won't make it
speak English.  And maybe another 2% of the time it works right.  I never
have any problems with the GVC's though.  Wish we could fine some more.
SOON!
dpc
response 54 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 1 00:50 UTC 1996

I usually get garbage, followed by a locked screen, when I dial in
761-3000.  Ordinarily I'll try 761-4931, which sometimes works.
        This is a *major* problem, and should be fixed.  Until then,
I'll try janc's trick with breaks.
ajax
response 55 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 1 05:23 UTC 1996

 Jan, I have fairly similar results dialing the Supras with my Supra,
though with a lower (maybe 30%?) hangup rate, so it's not just your modem.
I've got a Supra 28.8k, not the Supra 2400.  Results are far worse if I
forget to disable error correction before dialing, with AT&K0.
popcorn
response 56 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 1 14:19 UTC 1996

Re 54: Dave -- type "!phones" !!  -4931 is one of the lines with the old
Supras.  You want to dial 761-5041 instead.
scg
response 57 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 2 06:01 UTC 1996

My USR 28.8 handles the Supra 2400s just fine, without disabling error
correction.  The Supra 28.8 I used to have at work didn't seem to be able to
handle them.  The Supra was a much nicer modem than the USR in just about
every other way, though.
mdw
response 58 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 11 07:14 UTC 1996

7E1 used to be much more common, and was pretty much the norm
a decade ago.  It was still arguebly the right choice
when most merit dialins across the state went into 2400 baud
7E1 SCP lines, but now that they're mostly 8N1 NAS's,
7E1 is finally out of date.  Of course, before we retire
the 2400 supra's, we *really* need to get faster
terminal lines - the barrier to upgrading all the
lines to 9600 is getting something with full modem
control [that won't suck up too much CPU or have
other embarassing features].
scg
response 59 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 11 19:05 UTC 1996

I said at a staff meeting a month or two ago that I would deal with trying
to get the terminal server working.  I think I should have time for that
sometime in the next couple of weeks.
popcorn
response 60 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 12 16:25 UTC 1996

Thanks Steve!
selena
response 61 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 18 19:25 UTC 1996

Hmm.. well, I'd make all the necessaary preparations, steal it once I
gleaned the location of the dungeon, and run it myself! 
Or.. were you looking for POSITIVE ideas? ;}
arthurp
response 62 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 19 01:04 UTC 1996

You could buy a copmuter and start your own board.
davel
response 63 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 19 20:32 UTC 1996

Selena, you *want* to pay  for all those phone lines yourself?
kerouac
response 64 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 19 20:34 UTC 1996

Selena might know some computer hacks like Kevin Mitnick who know how to
get free phone service though....just need someone who knows how to break into
the right computers hehe.
scott
response 65 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 19 20:56 UTC 1996

Yep, Kevin's getting free phone service... He's in jail.  ;)

More Grexes or other community systems would be good, so for Selena to start
a new system would be great!  When does it go online?  :)
kerouac
response 66 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 20 21:47 UTC 1996

it can be done...bill and lynn rugg from mnet started c-net
scott
response 67 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 21 01:17 UTC 1996

I've been wondering lately if a simplified package to create a community
system could be put together.  Something like a system that has party, bbs,
and not much else, on a platform so simple and dumb it would be hard to abuse
in any clever way.  Something you could run on a PC with an Internet link?
selena
response 68 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 21 03:36 UTC 1996

that would be too cool!
*Selena''s mind comes up toth all sorts of neat concepts*
srw
response 69 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 21 04:38 UTC 1996

That stuff can all be compiled to run on Linux, FreeBSD and/or NetBSD.
Those systems are getting more stable, though they don't approach sunOS, 
people are running all three of them on the net.
scott
response 70 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 21 10:55 UTC 1996

I was thinking that even Unix would be tricky to manage.  Something like a
DOS program that just doesn't have the hooks in it for somebody to hack.
srw
response 71 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 22 05:21 UTC 1996

DOS can run one program at a time. I don't think you can make good use of a
net connection with it, though.
scott
response 72 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 22 11:09 UTC 1996

I didn't say it would be easy.  But writing a package that has to contain all
its multitasking, etc. would be useful in that it should have tighter security
since there wouldn't be anything outside of the menus.
kaplan
response 73 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 22 16:46 UTC 1996

Scott, how would the system you invision be different from a free-net?
scott
response 74 of 90: Mark Unseen   May 22 21:27 UTC 1996

It wouldn't be any different, it would just be easy to set up.

"Freenet in a Box".
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