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Grex > Coop8 > #120: Regarding a breach of etiquette | |
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ladyevil
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response 50 of 138:
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Oct 7 21:34 UTC 1996 |
What brighn said.
I think I've just found damn good reason to never respond to kerouac again!
Not only is he generally asinine, he has now become personally insulting.
I may still talk about him like this, in the third person, but really..
At least I've shared some of my life with these folks, here..
I'd say that is far more community-building- sharing part of one's life, than
what Richard ever does around here.
To those who have congratulated me.. thank you for being as kind as you could
be.. but it was accidental, and it was causing me much turmoil inside.
I am truly sad to tell you that after long hard consideration, I aborted the
embryo.
Perhaps one day I'll forgive myself. I don't think so, but it feels good to
say it.
*shakes her head*
I'm sorry.. on with it..
Let's see.. "Fairy Godmother" is kind of cute..
I'll see if I can suggest anything that doesn't have the word "member" in it.
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popcorn
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response 51 of 138:
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Oct 8 01:28 UTC 1996 |
Owch, Selena.
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brighn
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response 52 of 138:
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Oct 8 03:04 UTC 1996 |
Well, if Richard wants an official status, we could go with a synonym for
member. I'm sure he's used to being called Dick anyhow. =}
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birdlady
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response 53 of 138:
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Oct 8 16:28 UTC 1996 |
<lol at brighn's response, then gets shushed by the lab op>
<hugs Selena tightly and doesn't let go 'til she gets to the next cf>
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blondval
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response 54 of 138:
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Oct 8 19:45 UTC 1996 |
*val gives Selena a warm supportive hug and sheds one tear*
My prayers are with you my dear
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ladyevil
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response 55 of 138:
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Oct 8 23:56 UTC 1996 |
Life is fun, isn't it?
What is the saying that comes to mind? Oh, yes.. now I remember..
NOT!
*Sighs*
Look, thank you, here and in mail, but, unlike kerouac, I do not want to
dominate this item pointlessly. I will talk to anyone who wants to talk more,
or just be sweet, in mail.
Now, about titles..
Could the said donor pick out a mythological creature to be named as,
title-wise?
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mta
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response 56 of 138:
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Oct 9 00:51 UTC 1996 |
Actualy, you know, I like that. Titans? Olympians? Unicorns? ... naw, that's
too cute...Um, Minotaurs?
Hmmm.
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tsty
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response 57 of 138:
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Oct 9 09:02 UTC 1996 |
special condolances to ladyevil - tough decisions are always tough.
if forgiveness is necessary, you'll forgive yourself soon enough i think.
on another topic, this item seems to have drifted *real far* off
the daily & future running of grex.
the fw is considering freezing it.
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ajax
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response 58 of 138:
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Oct 9 10:00 UTC 1996 |
TS, regarding ladyevil, you probably skipped over response 55; read it! :-)
Regarding freezing the item, I just entered a separate item to discuss
that. If someone wants to comment on freezing this item, please do so in
item 124. Hopefully that will avert further drift here! :-)
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popcorn
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response 59 of 138:
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Oct 9 23:25 UTC 1996 |
It sounds fine to me for Selena to pick out a title to be named after, in
exchange for sending a donation to Grex. Very cool, actually.
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ladyevil
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response 60 of 138:
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Oct 10 03:36 UTC 1996 |
Coolness.. so long as "member" isn't part of it.. maybe "Grex's official
non-member"? :)
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srw
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response 61 of 138:
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Oct 10 07:43 UTC 1996 |
Special Non-member with *distinction*!
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tsty
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response 62 of 138:
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Oct 10 08:44 UTC 1996 |
no, i didn't skip over #55. i did feel awkward, however, suggesting
taht the topic had drifted a tad too far so soon after #55.
i had considered mentioning it way before but didn't. /sigh
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kerouac
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response 63 of 138:
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Oct 10 18:38 UTC 1996 |
How about simply Special Member? I might like that status myself, since
I want to make a donation at some point but I dont want a membershipo because
I dont agree with the bylaws.
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srw
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response 64 of 138:
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Oct 10 20:41 UTC 1996 |
The bylaws dictate what a member is. I don't know if "Special member"
would be sufficiently distinctto avoid confusion.
I like any of these terms to describe someone who donated to Grex
without obtaining membership status fo r any reason:
Patron, supporter, Donor, benefactor (there are others as well)
If you wanted to get fabcy you could allocated different names to different
amounts of support, but I think that sounds like overkill.
I would like to be able to recognize these people -- publicly on the
conferencing system and/or web site, if they are willing.
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krj
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response 65 of 138:
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Oct 10 20:53 UTC 1996 |
Patron is, of course, the M-net term; on M-net the patron status has always
brought additional goodies. So it's possible, given the close historic and
community ties between the two system, that Grex might want to dodge that
word "patron."
If you want to let people create their own titles, there could be a file
called "The Bestiary" recording who is a Gryphon and who is a Grexasaurus.
You'd have to decide if these titles were exclusive: would Grexasaurus
go to the first one who had dibs, or could you have six Grexasaureseses?
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davel
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response 66 of 138:
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Oct 10 21:26 UTC 1996 |
"Patron" would be fine if its use on That Other System hadn't turned so many
off. It's used by many organizations. It would, unfortunately, be a very
bad one here. <sigh>
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srw
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response 67 of 138:
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Oct 11 05:41 UTC 1996 |
That's OK. there are plenty of other words. We don't need "patron",
but it would have been fine were it not for M-net.
If we are going to allow donors to select their own official titles,
then they should be unique. I don't think we could handle two
*offcial* grexasauri, although I've seen several unofficial ones.
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rcurl
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response 68 of 138:
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Oct 11 07:31 UTC 1996 |
And the titles must not include the word "member", unless a new legal
class of membership is desired, in which case a bylaw amendment should
be proposed.
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steve
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response 69 of 138:
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Oct 11 14:33 UTC 1996 |
I hope this talk doesn't mean that the bylaws need to be changed.
I think it would be neat, and absolutely Grexian to have a "benefactors"
catagory that is totally ad-hoc, not supported by the baord or Grex,
but still exists. They'd simply be the people who gave $nn or more,
extra and above the current membership amount.
That would create the catagory, yet not add to the structure here.
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remmers
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response 70 of 138:
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Oct 11 16:45 UTC 1996 |
I'm not sure what you mean by "totally ad-hoc" and think that
the value of new donor categories would be enhanced by board
endorsement. It shouldn't require changing the bylaws as long
as the new categories don't come with voting privileges or
or the other privileges of membership listed in the bylaws.
I favor recognizing non-membership donations in this way,
although I would oppose conferring extra access perks on the
donors.
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srw
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response 71 of 138:
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Oct 11 17:00 UTC 1996 |
Exactly as John just said. Board sanction would be completely
appropriate. Grex would offer up *official* recognition and nothing
more. The recognition could be public or private as the benefactor
prefers.
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steve
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response 72 of 138:
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Oct 11 19:10 UTC 1996 |
OK, I see what John and Steve are saying--sure, have the board
officially recognize it. Makes sense.
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rcurl
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response 73 of 138:
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Oct 12 07:56 UTC 1996 |
Rubber stamp...
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dang
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response 74 of 138:
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Oct 12 18:17 UTC 1996 |
Richard, there is an objection to using the word member in this title, because
a member is strictly defined by the state and bylaws, and has special
priviliges. Anything without member, tho, would be more or less ifine.
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