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remmers
response 50 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 17:48 UTC 1995

It's different in the context of conferences because the term doesn't
blare out at you, as it would in large type on the front page of a 
newsletter.

If you want a name that has an association with Grex conferencing
and that the world would ask about, I'd suggest "Respond or Pass".
steve
response 51 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 19:04 UTC 1995

   But Greg, think about it: _The Fairwitness_ might sound stodgy, but
it sure wouldn't be...  Think of all the people who might open it because
of its title... heh heh.
gregc
response 52 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 19:47 UTC 1995

Yes, right. You think about it. All the people who might open it because
of it's title, expecting some fundementalist rag, and then finding out it's 
not what they expected and tossing it. OTOH, all the people that we would
really want to open it, would take one look at the title and never even 
bother opening it. Your argument doesn't hold water Steve.

It would be like naming a bar the "Teetotalers Juice Emporium". The non-
drinkers would come in, see that it wasn't what was advertised, and leave.
The crowd that you would want to attract, the drinkers, would never even come
in to start with.
mwarner
response 53 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 20:25 UTC 1995

I expect "The Fairwitness" would only be preaching to the
(digitally) converted.
remmers
response 54 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 20:48 UTC 1995

Think "Respond or Pass".  You won't be sorry that you did.
lilmo
response 55 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 21:19 UTC 1995

As no one else seems to have, I will.  I think "Respond or Pass"
would be intriguing enough to attract non-Grexers, and familiar enuf
to Grexers that they won't feel that it is aimed only at outsiders.
nephi
response 56 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 21:40 UTC 1995

I like "Respond or Pass," as well.  I also think that a subtitle along
the lines of ajax's "Monthly Proceedings of the Grand Encampment of 
the Ancient and Accepted Rito of the Siblinghood fo Supreme Purple
(purple?) Grexxers" would be pretty neat.  Maybe we could even have 
a different, witty subtitle along these lines each month.

Eh?
gregc
response 57 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 22:05 UTC 1995

How about "Tales from the Dungeon"? :-)
ajax
response 58 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 23:32 UTC 1995

Hmm...I like that...runner up to Drift for me though :).
How about Breakfast Food of Champions?
 
Btw, is anyone slated to edit and publish this thing, or is it still
kind of hypothetical?
steve
response 59 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 00:06 UTC 1995

   I don't really think that the people who will read it will be that
influenced by the title.  Sure, the title will change the minds of a
few, either way, but I'm not concerned with that.  It would happen
regardless of what we chose.
rcurl
response 60 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 04:52 UTC 1995

The answer to #58, mentioned in Item 66, is that bartlett volunteered
to put out the initial issues, and even posted an outline for the
newsletter. However bartlett hasn't logged in since ca. 26 January.
I've been keeping the pot simmering, but we do need to move ahead. Does
anyone know bartlett's whereabouts? Are there any new volunteers to take
on the editorship?

remmers, would the voting program be useable for first narrowing our list
of 10 suggested names - and then choosing from among (say) the top 4?
eeyore
response 61 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 05:04 UTC 1995

i would deffinately go for the "respond or pass" bit, but i agree with ajax, 
also..."breakfast of champions" needs to be added.
rcurl
response 62 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 07:02 UTC 1995

(Say, what does "breakfast of champions" mean w.r.t Grex? I suppose
its a Wheaties trade-mark, but I've never heard what it has to do with
us.)
remmers
response 63 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 12:53 UTC 1995

Could we even use it if it's a trademark?
remmers
response 64 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 12:55 UTC 1995

Re #60:  Sure, the voting program could be used.  The board election
program is set up to let you vote for M out of N.
popcorn
response 65 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 14:50 UTC 1995

Re 62: Marcus entered the original "Breakfast of Champions" message,
intending for it to change every week or so.  But the message has been
there for almost 4 years, and it hasn't changed yet (except to sometimes
say "Champs" instead of "Champions").
brenner
response 66 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 15:20 UTC 1995


 Wheaties
  Cyberspace Wheaties
  Whole Cyberspace Review

steve
response 67 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 15:38 UTC 1995

   I love those!
brenner
response 68 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 15:59 UTC 1995




        the brenner gazette
        


remmers
response 69 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 17:06 UTC 1995

<remmers wonders whether brenner will represent us if and when
 General Mills or Whole Earth sues Cyberspace Communications Inc...>

Okay, if we're into vanity names I'll propose

        The Remmers Rag

gregc
response 70 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 17:35 UTC 1995

Actually, while "Whole Cyberspace Review" sounds like, and is based on,
"Whole Earth Review", it is not the same 3 words and therefore shouldn't
be a problem. Tradmark registration is for a very specific word or
phrase. If another film company wanted to call themselves "Kofak", Kodak
can't go after them just because their name *sounds* like Kodak.

Using the word "Wheaties" in the name would be a problem, because "Wheaties"
by itself is not a real word and has been trademarked. However, the words
"whole", "review", and "cyberspace" are real English words in and of 
themselves and therefore I don't believe they can be made trademarks.
(Although "cyberspace" is rather new as a word.) Only the *phrase*
"Whole Earth Review" could be trademarked.
chelsea
response 71 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 20:35 UTC 1995

  Never a Null Moment - Grex News
gregc
response 72 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 8 21:45 UTC 1995

  "Grex News - /nev/dull"
zook
response 73 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 01:01 UTC 1995

The Net Informer
The Lattice Leaper
The Grex Connection
The Grex Adept
The Town Meeting

(I fast-forwarded this item.  Apologies if already suggested)
brenner
response 74 of 152: Mark Unseen   Mar 9 01:33 UTC 1995



Wait.  Whole Earth is public domain.

Why don't you email ruth@well.com
she is the editor of WER and ask her if you can use it?
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