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rcurl
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response 50 of 115:
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Jun 13 06:42 UTC 1995 |
Your definition of "elitist", selena, appears to encompass any
application of choices based upon information and intelligence.
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popcorn
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response 51 of 115:
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Jun 13 15:22 UTC 1995 |
We could choose staffers by random drawing among users?
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janc
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response 52 of 115:
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Jun 13 16:45 UTC 1995 |
Qualifications for being root:
- Personal Ethics. Should not be easily tempted to abuse power.
- Knows his Limits. Won't muck what he doesn't understand.
- Meticulous. Not prone to carelessness.
- Knows Unix. Needs to know enough to be useful.
Not very objective criteria. Someone needs to make a judgement call.
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rcurl
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response 53 of 115:
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Jun 13 18:39 UTC 1995 |
-Selfless. Willing to neglect personal life for the good of Grex.
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robh
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response 54 of 115:
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Jun 13 20:56 UTC 1995 |
I have all of those, except for "Knows His Limits". Oh well. >8)
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davel
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response 55 of 115:
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Jun 13 20:58 UTC 1995 |
- Reliable. Doesn't habitually take on jobs, or start them, & then
abandon them without appropriate consultation.
In fact, willingness & ability to consult with others in general seems
like a really important qualification, *especially* in Grex's rather
offhand & unstructured environment.
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popcorn
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response 56 of 115:
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Jun 13 21:54 UTC 1995 |
Hm. I'd say a number of us staffers fall down on a number of those
criteria. About the only one that I'd say every staffer meets is the
personal integrity requirement. O well! :)
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remmers
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response 57 of 115:
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Jun 13 21:56 UTC 1995 |
Re #55: A person who habitually leaves jobs unfinished could still
be a useful root person provided they meet Jan's criteria in #52.
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gregc
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response 58 of 115:
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Jun 14 08:14 UTC 1995 |
I'll pass over the obvoius unspoken smiley in Rane's comment in #53.
(Umm, you *were* joking, wern't you Rane?)
As for #55: Dave, while being realiable would be a nice *extra*, I don't
think it's a requirement for having root. Having root, and performing
large projects, do not necasarily go hand in hand. I think Jan stated an
excellent set of criteria in #52. If someone was unreliable, I might not
want them working on a large project for Grex, but I wouldn't want to remove
from them the ability to fix an urgent problem if Grex crashed. I believe
you are over-defining what the purpose of "having root" is.
Re #45: Valerie, could I interest you in an arrow?
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nephi
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response 59 of 115:
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Jun 14 10:17 UTC 1995 |
What was that Rane?
-Selfless. Willing to neglect personal life for good sex? 8*)
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rcurl
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response 60 of 115:
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Jun 14 19:11 UTC 1995 |
Did you smile, Greg? :).
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srw
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response 61 of 115:
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Jun 15 05:42 UTC 1995 |
I think all 4 of Jan's criteria are the ones we use already when we
evaluate new candidates. We can't evaluate new candidates we don't know
well enough to rate on those criteria with some certainty.
Our current staffers all rate well on jan's criteria, but some don't rate
as well on #55, and has been said, that's OK. We also have staffers
who don't rate as well on #53, but I think a smiley was in order there.
I think it's too bad that some users don't see the importance of insisting
that staff members meet these criteria.
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davel
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response 62 of 115:
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Jun 15 09:43 UTC 1995 |
Re 57 & 58: um, yes. I wandered off into thoughts from another part of
my life.
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tsty
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response 63 of 115:
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Jun 21 16:16 UTC 1995 |
so why would it happen, in reference to #0, that a relative newcomer/
outsider comes to identical conclusions as so many have before?
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popcorn
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response 64 of 115:
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Jun 21 20:42 UTC 1995 |
(er, Justin has been around for a while. Look how low his uid number is?)
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tsty
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response 65 of 115:
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Jun 22 13:53 UTC 1995 |
hmmm, true, thankxx. Interesting to see a thoughful delay in coming to
the same conclusions that so many have before. Perhaps the time delay
could add some degree of weight to conclusions.
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sidhe
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response 66 of 115:
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Jun 25 19:56 UTC 1995 |
Well, having talked to newcomers, I can say that the impression
is quick to set in.
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rcurl
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response 67 of 115:
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Jun 26 03:50 UTC 1995 |
Having talked to newcomers myself, they generally think Grex is great
and have no complaints, considering that it is open and free. Maybe
these "impressions" are extensions of one's own opinions?
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sidhe
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response 68 of 115:
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Jun 29 00:47 UTC 1995 |
Rane, i arrived in October, and it was quick to see that there
was quite a divsion of haves and have nots here.
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helmke
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response 69 of 115:
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Jun 29 01:20 UTC 1995 |
Well, I arrived in November, and it was obvious that there were
regulars and non-regulars, but no apparent division of access except where
the magic $6/mo. provided some extra benefits.
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robh
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response 70 of 115:
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Jun 29 01:40 UTC 1995 |
Okay, sidhe, I'm curious - What do the "have"s have that
the "have not"s don't?
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rcurl
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response 71 of 115:
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Jun 29 19:17 UTC 1995 |
Right! Give us a list of "haves" and "have notes".
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davel
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response 72 of 115:
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Jun 30 00:27 UTC 1995 |
Memos, grace notes, hemisemidemiquavers, or what, Rane?
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rcurl
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response 73 of 115:
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Jun 30 06:04 UTC 1995 |
Thank you. Noted. Now, some have knots?
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tsty
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response 74 of 115:
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Jun 30 09:59 UTC 1995 |
Frayed so.
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