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kottos
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response 50 of 194:
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May 21 22:58 UTC 1999 |
Although, some contemporary composers do write their scores at sounding pitch.
But they usually state if they have done so in the preface page. It can be
frustrating if you have spent ages analysing a piece and then find out that
you shouldn't have transposed parts of it!
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davel
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response 51 of 194:
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May 22 01:11 UTC 1999 |
Operas have acts, scenes, and whatnot. I'm not sure what units you're
thinking of, but I don't think "movement" is correct.
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coyote
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response 52 of 194:
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May 24 00:05 UTC 1999 |
The units I mean include each area, duet, trio, recitative, orchestral
interlude, etc. Anything with music attached. I'm pretty sure 'movement'
isn't the right word, too. The sad part is, I did thing of the word just
a little while ago, but I forgot it again.
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davel
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response 53 of 194:
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May 26 01:04 UTC 1999 |
s/area/aria ??
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coyote
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response 54 of 194:
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Jun 2 01:32 UTC 1999 |
*laugh* Yes, precisely...
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keesan
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response 55 of 194:
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Aug 17 17:18 UTC 1999 |
I have typed up and uploaded to my home directory a list entitled RECORDS.99
which you are all welcome to read if someone will tell me how to change the
read permission so it is readable. Please suggest what I should remove from
or add to my collection. And let me know the names and dates of those
composers who were referred to on the jackets simply by their last names
(alongside a detailed biography of the performers). This is only the baroque
and later part of the collection, and is intentionally heavy on baroque, also
Haydn and Dvorak and Mendelssohn - did I miss any of their better works?
In cases where there are three of something it was intentional, either I could
not choose between them or a piece was combined with something else.
Brahms Symphony No 3 may end up there in triplicate for such reasons.
The list is of performances, not of records (some of which are therefore found
scattered about under different composers). The Murray Hill is a 16 volume
set which I will probably not keep, of lesser known performances, that was
being discarded at Kiwanis - anyone want it for a starter set?
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davel
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response 56 of 194:
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Aug 20 10:44 UTC 1999 |
Your file is world-readable, Sindi. (Unless you do something to make it
otherwise, files you create will normally be so.)
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keesan
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response 57 of 194:
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Aug 20 13:56 UTC 1999 |
Thank you. Can anyone fill in the names and dates of any of the composer in
/a/k/e/keesan/RECORDS.99? And suggest any good works that I have missed?
And how do I change whether a file is readable or writable?
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rcurl
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response 58 of 194:
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Aug 20 16:34 UTC 1999 |
With the unix command chmod. You can look it up with the command
man chmod at a unix prompt. The format is, for example,
chmod 644 <filename>
The number is a string of octal numbers. The first place (6) is
permission for you, the second (4) for the group, and the last (4)
for all others.
Each octal number represents a binary number. 6 = 110, 4 = 100, etc. A 1
in the first place is an "on" for read permission; a 1 in the second place
is an "on" for write permission; a 1 in the last place is an "on" for
execution permission (for programs).
Thus, 644 is personal read and write permission, but only read permission
for others. 600 would produce a file depermitted for all others.
The rules are a trifle different for directories.
In your directory you see 644 written as -rw-r--r--, where rw- is the same
as 110, and r-- is 100. Directories have to be executable, so you will see
the x at the end, e.g., drwx--x--x = 711 is the permission for a directory
that you have complete access to but others cannot read but they can read
files in the directory (if you give them the file name). The common
directory permission is 755, which allows others to read the directory
file list as well as read files in the directory.
(I wrote this tutorial to remind myself of the rules!)
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keesan
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response 59 of 194:
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Aug 20 23:26 UTC 1999 |
This is beyond me. I discovered that I can read and write to files in my home
directory, and read but not write to those in Jim's. If I ever need to make
my files unreadable I will figure this out. Or not post private info there.
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krj
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response 60 of 194:
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Aug 21 08:27 UTC 1999 |
Two personal favorites which I don't find in keesan's list:
Beethoven's 9th Symphony
Stravinsky's Firebird Suite (not the entire ballet, which I find tedious)
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oddie
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response 61 of 194:
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Aug 23 05:03 UTC 1999 |
Keesan, there is another way of using `chmod' which I find easier.
Instead of the octal numbers you use a three-part code.
The first part of the code contains a combination of: `u' for the owner
(yourself), `g' for the owner's group, `o' for everyone not in the group.
On a system like Grex, you can probably just lump `o' and `g' together
to refer to all users excluding the owner.
The first part can also be simply `a' to refer to everyone with an account
on the system.
The second part is either `+' to enable the permission or `-' to take
it away.
The third character stands for which permission: `r' for read, `w' for write,
or `x' for execute. There are a couple of others too, but they probably aren't
important to anyone except programmers and admins.
The most common cases would be:
chmod a+r <file> ; to make the file readable by all
chmod og-r <file> ; to make the file readable by only the owner
(you are taking read permissions away from the `g'roup
and `o'thers; it doesn't matter to the command whether
they had them in the first place or not)
chmod a+w <file> ; to make the file writable by all (probably not
a good idea)
chmod og-w <file> ; to make the file writable by only the owner
I hope this was helpful.
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coyote
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response 62 of 194:
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Aug 23 17:15 UTC 1999 |
Here is some of the composer info you wanted, and a few personal
recommendations--none of them are baroque, but perhaps you'll give them a
listen.
Georges Bizet (1838-1875)
Max Bruch (1838-1920)
Marc-Antoine Charpentier (1634-1704)
Frederic Chopin (1810-1849)
Chopin wrote many sets of wonderful solo piano music, and I'd recommend
listening to his Etudes, Ballades, and Nocturnes for a start.
Claude Debussy (1862-1918)
Debussy wrote some Nocturnes as well, but his are for orchestra. Give
them a listen.
Paul Dukas (1865-1935)
Antonin Dvorak (1841-1904)
Georges Enesco (1881-1955)
Gabriel Faure (1845-1924)
Faure wrote some fantastic chamber music. One of my favorites is his
opus 120 trio for violin, cello, and piano.
Christoph Gluck (1714-1797)
Edvard Grieg (1843-1907)
Try the Piano Concerto (A minor, I believe).
Zoltan Kodaly (1882-1967)
Edouard Lalo (1823-1892)
Gustav Mahler (1860-1911)
Marin Marais (1656-1728)
Felix Mendelssohn (1809-1847)
Modest Mossorgsky (1839-1881)
Niccolo Paganini (1782-1840)
Sergey Rachmaninoff (1873-1943)
I love Rachmaninoff's music. Some things to try are his other piano
concerti (there are four in all), the preludes for piano, and symphony
no. 2
Ottorino Respighi (1879-1936)
Respighi wrote a whole "Roman triptych", which consists of The Pines
of Rome, The Fountains of Romes, and Roman Festivals. My favorite of
them is The Pines of Rome.
Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakov (1844-1908)
Camille Saint-Saens (1835-1921)
Johann Strauss the Younger (1825-1899)
Igor Stravinsky (1882-1971)
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keesan
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response 63 of 194:
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Aug 26 04:07 UTC 1999 |
Many thanks for all the information about changing read and write permssions,
and all those dates and suggestions. I print-screened it all (Yes I know how
to extract an item but it is too much work). I have all nine Beethoven
Symphonies, two of most of them, and have sung the Ninth, just forgot to list
them for some reason.
Kiwanis has classical LPs for 10 and 25 cents, so I just borrowed $5.60
worth to test out and see if I can tell apart the same piece played by
different performers. Most are in excellent condition. The more expensive
LPs ( up to a dollar) tend to be more recent popular stuff. You would not
believe the number of records of Tijuana Brass! (Also in the ten cent area).
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omni
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response 64 of 194:
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Aug 26 06:34 UTC 1999 |
TJ Brass? I'm a big fan, however I only have 4 of thier albums
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krj
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response 65 of 194:
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Aug 31 15:50 UTC 1999 |
((I would indeed believe the number of Tijuana Brass albums turning up
at Kiwanis. I vaguely recall they were the #3 selling band of the
1960s. Sometime I should see if any of the Kiwanis TJB
LPs are in better shape than some of the copies I have. :)
Should we start a TJB item in the Music conference, omni?))
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omni
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response 66 of 194:
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Aug 31 16:51 UTC 1999 |
Sure.
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keesan
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response 67 of 194:
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Sep 21 01:23 UTC 1999 |
I have collected some Chopin (piano sonatas 2 and 3, 4 ballades, Piano
Concerto 2), Rachmaninoff (Concerto 2 and Symphony 1 and Symphonic Dances)
and now Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsodies 1 and 2 and Enesco's Romanian Rhapsodies
1 and 2. Thanks for the suggestions.
What else did Enesco and Liszt write, and were there other good Romanian and
Hungarian composers besides Bartok? Has anyone heard of any Bulgarian or
Yugoslav classical composers? Polish other than Chopin? Czech other than
Dvorak, Smetana?
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md
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response 68 of 194:
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Sep 21 02:06 UTC 1999 |
Hungarian: Kodaly, Ligeti, Dohnanyi
Polish: Lutoslawski, Penderecki, Gorecki
Those are the ones whose music I've liked
enough to have on disc, anyway. Antal Dorati,
who was better-known as a conductor, wrote a
symphony that I like very much. He was
Hungarian. When you talk about Hungarians,
you probably need to distinguish the Magyars
from the Szekelers, which I can't do for you
except to say that Bartok boasted of being a
Magyar.
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keesan
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response 69 of 194:
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Sep 21 17:37 UTC 1999 |
Magyar is the Hungarian word for Hungarian.
Janacek is Czech. Which of the above were pre-20th century?
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md
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response 70 of 194:
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Sep 21 23:18 UTC 1999 |
They're all 20th century.
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keesan
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response 71 of 194:
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Oct 8 18:47 UTC 1999 |
How does one change a mono recording to stereo?
I found a library book listing the author's fifty favorite composers, starting
with Bach, Mozart and Beethoven. (talk request, bye for now)
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omni
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response 72 of 194:
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Oct 9 16:56 UTC 1999 |
You don't. Mono is mono, and will never be stereo.
Well, you CAN, but then you would need some sophisticated equipment, and
even then you may not get true stereo. My impression is that the piece needs
to be recorded in stereo to be stereo.
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md
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response 73 of 194:
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Oct 10 02:14 UTC 1999 |
I agree. Some amplifiers have settings called
"simulated stereo" and "simulated surround" that
add a reverberation effect, and in some cases
shift the bass to one channel and the treble to
the other, but it never sounds like the real thing.
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keesan
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response 74 of 194:
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Oct 11 16:39 UTC 1999 |
I have records that were 'digitally remastered' from mono to stereo.
Toscanini performances. How did they do this?
Would anyone else besides the author of my book want to list who they consider
to be the top 50 (or at least top 10) classical composers? I will refrain
from posting #4 and beyond for a while. This author heavily favored the 19th
century and listed only Palestrina as a good Renaissance composer. He
apparently felt obliged to include a few 20th century composers. 0 women.
Were there any women composers before 1900? Have there been any since then?
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