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tod
response 50 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 22:40 UTC 2003

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mdw
response 51 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 22:52 UTC 2003

They allow "anyone calling to arrange a face to face meeting but not
specifically asking you in the phone call to buy anything"?  Sheesh.  I
can see a lot of telemarketers coming up with new and even more annoying
spiels to drive through that loophole.
johnnie
response 52 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 22:58 UTC 2003

I had no problems whatsoever with the "no call" website, but then I was 
on it at 6am...

re #48 - Virtually every call you'll ever get from someone claiming to 
be raising money for the police (or for firemen) will be a scam.  Be as 
rude as you like.
dcat
response 53 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 23:15 UTC 2003

resp:48,49 -- I think my parents are already on DNC lists.  Aside from the
occasional misguided siding or roofing salesman --- easily turned aside, as
we don't own the house --- we get virtually no calls.  At all.

Having only one phone line, and having it frequently occupied by the modem
for long stretches of time, probably doesn't hurt, either.
tod
response 54 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 23:23 UTC 2003

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rcurl
response 55 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 05:19 UTC 2003

I do the same. I now get very few marketing calls - there hasn't been one
for several weeks, except one political fund raiser, which would be sanctioned
anyway (I was still rude).
keesan
response 56 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 05:30 UTC 2003

Why can't the political parties also not call people on the don't call list?
I think the Michigan rules take effect June 30, after which I can try to
report recorded phone messages.
keesan
response 57 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 05:58 UTC 2003

I did some reading at the www.donotcall.gov site.  No crowds at 1 am.
The FCC is working on eliminating the loopholes which allow banks, insurance
companies, airlines and long distance phone companies to annoy us.  You can
still be called by people soliciting donations but they have to put you on
their own list and not call again.  

I entered three numbers, selected SUBMIT, and got:


                                     ERROR

The requested URL could not be retrieved
     _________________________________________________________________

   While trying to retrieve the URL:
   [1]http://www.donotcall.gov/register/Reg.aspx

   The following error was encountered:
     * Read Error 

   The system returned:
    (54) Connection reset by peer

   An error condition occurred while reading data from the network.
   Please retry your request.

   Your cache administrator is [2]staff@cyberspace.org.
     _________________________________________________________________

   Generated Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:05:19 GMT by gryps.cyberspace.org
   (squid/2.5.PRE5)

References

   1. http://www.donotcall.gov/register/Reg.aspx
   2. mailto:staff@cyberspace.org


Is this one of those sites that is crippled by javascript?  What is an
aspx?
marinego
response 58 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 06:04 UTC 2003

What I can do here??.
mary
response 59 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 12:17 UTC 2003

The process worked pretty well just now.  The web site was 
available, I entered our three phone numbers, and  mail 
came back asking for my confirmation.  I confirmed and they
reconfirmed our numbers are now on the list.

Now, on to junk mail. ;-)
orinoco
response 60 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 16:06 UTC 2003

Just the other day, I told a telemarketer to stop calling us, and he launched
into a long speech about the national do-not-call list.  I told him, "That's
okay, just take me off your list," and he said, "I will, but I'm required to
tell you all this first.  You can stop listening if you want."  
keesan
response 61 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 21:25 UTC 2003

What browsers have worked for this?  Lynx gives an error message.  Links
refuses to even access the site.  I might wait and try the 888 number in the
middle of the night.  Or try loading linux and opera.
dcat
response 62 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 22:27 UTC 2003

For me "!lynx www.donotcall.gov" from the PicoSpan prompt worked perfectly,
about an hour after your message.
keesan
response 63 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 23:25 UTC 2003

Thanks, I will try again.  Maybe something was busy.
albaugh
response 64 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 01:08 UTC 2003

IWLTA that I am grexing - only long enough to post this, I'm afraid - from
beyond the international date line!  :-)  I'm sitting at a PC in a Cyber Cafe
("Phil 101") in Barangay (barrio) ng Poblacion ("downtown"), Bayan ("town")
ng San Miguel (de Mayumo), Province ng Bulacan, Republika ng Pilipinas
(Philippines).  Grex is *everywhere*!  ;-)
polytarp
response 65 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 01:29 UTC 2003

Nerd.
russ
response 66 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 06:14 UTC 2003

RISKS digest volume 22 issue 78 is in /a/r/u/russ/risks/risks-22.78
jaklumen
response 67 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 07:59 UTC 2003

resp:60 I've done that gig before and it is the truth.  Required by 
law if I remember correctly.

I think a saw a news story on this.  I just laughed when I heard some 
spokesman for the telemarketers all but whine about the law, and the 
narrator say that they claim it hurts their business.  Bullshit.  
Telemarketing is looking for needles in a haystack-- the professionals 
*will* admit that-- and I don't think it's particularly efficient or 
effective.
keesan
response 68 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 09:44 UTC 2003

I got through with lynx about 10 pm tonight.  The telemarketers are looking
for a few very stupid victims, same as the spammers.
rcurl
response 69 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 16:56 UTC 2003

I think a large part of their successes must be lonely people that get
some solace from the telemarketers - no one else is calling them.

keesan
response 70 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 22:33 UTC 2003

A friend currently staying with his mother while she has surgery reports that
one telemarketer got really nasty and wanted to know if the person on the
phone really lived there.  I think his mother must be on a sucker list. 
Someone talked her into borrowing the money (with the house as security) to
replace all her doors and windows.  They worked.  The house has zero
insulation and needs a new roof.  If she cannot come up with the money to
repay, they get the house (with new windows).  

Has anyone got an email from donotcall yet?
aruba
response 71 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 23:03 UTC 2003

I got an email back, in order to complete my registration.  Is that what you
mean?
slynne
response 72 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 23:10 UTC 2003

I got an email back too that allowed me to complete my registration. IT 
took about 24 hours or so
i
response 73 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 00:02 UTC 2003

My older brother reports that he gets *extremely* few junk calls.  But
he works nights, has sleep problems, has been around some really rough
places, and *knows the rules* on the (very few) things that you really
can't say to *someone who called you*.  Somewhere, it seems that they
keep a psycho/hate/etc. list of folks who are too emotionally traumatic
on their employees to be worth calling...
beeswing
response 74 of 335: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 00:02 UTC 2003

Yah, same here. I put my home number, my cell number (I get
telemarketing calls on that sometimes) and my parents number. I was
getting up to 7 calls a day at home. 

We changed my grandparents' phone number to an unlisted when they were
falling prey to telemarketers. My grandfather has dementia and is hard
of hearing. The cable people called and talked him into a cable package
with all the movie channels, jacking up their cable bill. My grandfather
didn't understand what it was and didn't know what it was signing up
for. My mom had to call the cable people and got the number changed.
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