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aruba
response 50 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 19:01 UTC 2002

Carol says she thinks it's great, and she's proud of me, and she's glad that
I'm doing it.  (That was dictation.)

I've been taking classes for the last couple of years, of course, so it
won't be a big shock when I start in the fall.  They will be higher level
than what I've gotten used to, though.  I'll plan on taking two classes per
semester; I've found that at that rate, I can learn things pretty well.  I
can do three (I did it last fall), but it's hard.
senna
response 51 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 19:57 UTC 2002

That's good.
janc
response 52 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 00:52 UTC 2002

I agree on keeping the course load light.  Especially once you get 
started on research, there is no point in taking a heavy load of 
courses.  After I got my BSE, I mostly keep course loads light so I had 
time for other things, and could really take time to learn the material 
in the courses I took.
mcnally
response 53 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 15:59 UTC 2002

  I'd keep my course loads light, too, if I got BSE..
eskarina
response 54 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 22:50 UTC 2002

How does one get an advisor without already being a graduate student?
aruba
response 55 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 03:07 UTC 2002

Well, one asks someone.
eskarina
response 56 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 18:44 UTC 2002

And you can do this when you aren't a graduate student and they don't even
know you?
cmcgee
response 57 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 20:28 UTC 2002

yes, that's how I got back into graduate school.  I had an advisor who I
went to talk to about strategies for getting in and getting done quickly. 
keesan
response 58 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 21:16 UTC 2002

What are your chances of getting a teaching fellowship after the first
semester or two?
aruba
response 59 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 21:48 UTC 2002

I think I could probably get an assistantship in fall 2003.  I am happy to
have a year without having to divide my time between teaching and school,
though.
eskarina
response 60 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 23:21 UTC 2002

re 57:  So how did you pick out your advisor?  
mcnally
response 61 of 98: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 05:33 UTC 2002

  It's a little known secret but in most cases the winner is already chosen
  before the swimsuit competition..
aruba
response 62 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 2 02:13 UTC 2002

I got a letter from Prof. Stembridge today, and he says I don't have to take
any qualifiers.  Phew!
eskarina
response 63 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 2 02:48 UTC 2002

Yay!
jep
response 64 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 2 03:13 UTC 2002

Super!  Now that obstacle is out of the way.  Any idea why he changed 
his mind?
aruba
response 65 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 2 03:35 UTC 2002

Wel, I took mcnally's advice and didn't force him to decide one way or the
other, and I think that was the right thing to do.  In the meantime he
looked at my records, so I guess he decided they were enough to merit
counting my qualifiers.
remmers
response 66 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 2 11:03 UTC 2002

Glad it worked out, Mark.

As you know, I went through the math doctoral program at U of
M, many years ago (graduated 1971).  The department and their
ways of running things have changed a lot since then, and most
of the faculty members weren't there when I was a student.
I do remember Al Taylor, who was a fresh young faculty member
at the time.  Never had dealings with him though.
eskarina
response 67 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 2 19:24 UTC 2002

So maybe its just that with advisors, if you sit back and give them time, they
consider that you might be smart...

<still don't get it>
aruba
response 68 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 2 21:15 UTC 2002

Well, neither do I, really, but I'm not complaining at the moment.
deusx23
response 69 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 2 21:33 UTC 2002

Funny that I should see this item as I try having a go at Grex again.

Been thinking that I really want to have a go at a PhD in Comp Sci at U
of M, but don't have a single clue as to where to start.  Probably just
need to start making calls to get talking to an advisor.  

Also trying to figure out how I'd be able to balance things in general.
 Have a great job now and am killing off most of whatever debt I have in
undergrad loans and stupidity from the last few years.  If I hadn't very
many bills, I really wouldn't mind living off ramen noodles and
textbooks for a few years.

And I'm hoping I'm not misguided about wanting grad school.  I really
enjoy computer science.  I like playing, hurting my head by cramming new
things in and trying to spit clever things back out.  (Whether I
actually *do* spit clever things out is another matter.)  And I also
seem to really like the academic environment... I think.  Hoping I'm not
remembering it in a overly fond way and fooling myself.

Hmm.  Have to start doing some poking around.
gelinas
response 70 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 18 06:30 UTC 2002

I've been leaning that way again, too.  Of course, that's a large part of why
I'm still in Ann Arbor any way.
bhelliom
response 71 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 20 16:41 UTC 2002

It seems as if a lot of folks are contemplating grad school right now.  
I definitely applaud you for going for it, Mark, and I think you did 
well for yourself by taking time off.  If I had any advice to offer, it 
would be to try as hard as possible to maintain some sense of balance.  
healthy social outlets are so important when dealing with the 
occassional isolation that pften comes with graduate work.  (Do other 
people agree with that?) Would you say that emotionally and mentally, 
you're in  a better place than you were at that early time?  And now 
you're ready to really work on your program.

I was planning on PhD work in History after my MA.  Aside from becoming 
less enamored of the idea of facing a tight market, even focusing on 
Asian history, the depression that I'd been fighting for a long time 
started taking hold (again, if I look back on things honestly) after 
the first year of my master's program.  I am thankful that my grades 
are good, other than the C in Vietnamese, because I found myself 
staying in bed often rather than going to class, and struggling to be 
interested in my master's thesis topic.  I'm certain that I would have 
failed miserably had I tried to go any further.  Barring any other 
possibilities that takes me in another direction, I hope to get my 
depression under control and head back to grad school, albiet with a 
slightly different focus. I think I have determined to pursue the 
JD/PhD program at U of M, hopefully starting fall 2003.

So you're certainly going to prove inspirational in the coming months.  
Keep us posted!!!
jmsaul
response 72 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 21 00:09 UTC 2002

JD/PhD?  What are you planning to get the PhD in?  (And if you need any inside
advice on law school here, let me know.)
bhelliom
response 73 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 21 14:07 UTC 2002

History. I'd like to focus on legal history, which has always intrigued 
me.  Mainly I'll focus on the legal systems which influence mordern 
jurisprudence, but I will also focus on the legal system of some 
eastern societies.  I'm particularly interested in studying the effect 
that religon, schools of philosophy, etc. have historically had on 
legal systems (take Judaism or Confucianism for instance), and the 
struggle of modern societies that attempt to keep religion out of the 
law.  That's not a very coherent explanation, but that's it in a 
nutshell.
jmsaul
response 74 of 98: Mark Unseen   May 21 15:57 UTC 2002

Sounds very cool.  I took an English Legal History class from Prof. Brian
Simpson (don't miss that, it's a good course from someone who loves his
subject and has lived some of it), Bloodfeuds (Prof. Bill Miller -- also an
outstanding course, though you have to watch it with any professor who's
written a book entitled _Humiliation_ ;-), and an Islamic Law class from a
prof who's no longer there, in addition to all of the more modern stuff.  Good
school for it.
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