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Grex > Music1 > #170: Jerry Garcia (1942-1995...RIP) |  |
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signet
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response 50 of 69:
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Aug 16 12:47 UTC 1995 |
On a lighter note, my singles group was talking about this recent death. We
were planning the next 2 months events, and one guy suggested we have a
potluck dinner in honor of Garcia. We all groaned and threw pillows at him.
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md
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response 51 of 69:
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Aug 16 13:15 UTC 1995 |
Patsy: Music today has no character.
Edina: It's dreadful.
Patsy: Who chokes to death on their own vomit nowadays?
Edina: Nobody!
Patsy: Nobody!
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rogue
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response 52 of 69:
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Aug 16 14:23 UTC 1995 |
#48: You really think The Dead have a greater number of fans than The
Beatles? Are you being serious, Steve?
The Beatles are an international phenomenon and were/are popular
all over the world. The Dead are not. Beatle songs like Let It Be,
Yesterday, Strawberry Fields, etc. will live forever. The Dead's
songs will live in the minds of their cult followers -- a relatively
small number of people. It is unlikely that anyone will give a flying
shit about the Dead in, say, 75 years. The Beatles and their songs
will live on.
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beeswing
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response 53 of 69:
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Aug 16 16:15 UTC 1995 |
Well nothing makes you as popular as being dead, now does it?
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sbj
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response 54 of 69:
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Aug 16 17:23 UTC 1995 |
There's a cheery thought.
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bartley
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response 55 of 69:
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Aug 16 17:34 UTC 1995 |
Now if we could just convince "pop" stars to kill themselves for
popularity..... ;)
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steve
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response 56 of 69:
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Aug 16 17:56 UTC 1995 |
Re #52: At this point, no, probably there are more Beatles fans
out there. But the dead influcence keeps growing. I do wonder
in time, which might be larger.
I do know that sales of Beatles CD's has started to drop. This
has been talked about in a number of music marketing magazines. I
have no idea if this is tied to some economic condition, or if they
have hit their nader, and will start the downward slide now.
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sbj
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response 57 of 69:
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Aug 16 20:08 UTC 1995 |
re #55: Does the word Kurt mean anything to you? :)
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krj
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response 58 of 69:
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Aug 17 00:17 UTC 1995 |
Death has long been one of the greatest career moves in rock.
Look at Selina for another recent example.
I guess there's little point in further arguing the merits of the
Dead, since rogue has issued his pronouncement. We won't know
whose music will survive until the future gets here; J.S. Bach was
pretty well forgotten until Mendellsohn set out to revive his music.
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kerouac
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response 59 of 69:
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Aug 17 01:04 UTC 1995 |
A couple of years back, the Dead toured with Bob Dylan. This is
sort of like Andy Warhol having a show with Michaelangelo. The Dead
were many things, but music innovators they were not. Garcia himself
admitted they wouldnt have been a band in the first place without two
specific influences, Dylan and the writer Jack Kerouac (whose novel
"On the Road" inspired their touring philosophy)
The Dead became cultural icons because of their attitude and the things
they came to represent. Their shows were in fact homages to the artists
who inspired them.
You can imagine what a strange trip it had to be to one day be a bunch
of kids in a group house in haight-asbury sanfrancisco, listening to
and being mesmerized by "Like a Rolling Stone", and then to be twenty years
later playing that song on the same stage.
The Dead never concentrated on making great albums or hit songs, because
they knew who they were, a backup band providing pretty darn good scenery!
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rogue
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response 60 of 69:
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Aug 17 03:10 UTC 1995 |
So, like I was saying, The Dead's music is second-rate.
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orwell
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response 61 of 69:
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Aug 17 04:07 UTC 1995 |
The Dead's influences do show up these days in teh faces of popular bands
Phish, BLues Traveler, etc.....same music, alot of the same fans
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beeswing
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response 62 of 69:
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Aug 17 04:08 UTC 1995 |
WHY, if a band doesn't just blow the walls of rock as we know it, it's not
worth doody? we are taught as kids to grow up and do what mnakes us happy.
The Dead played damn good music and it made them (and many others) happy.
They didn't hurt anyone and just did what they wanted to do. That's good
enough for me. Nowadays you have to be superhuman for anyone to pay attention
to you for 5 minutes. And that's a damn shame.
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md
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response 63 of 69:
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Aug 17 12:25 UTC 1995 |
Little-known fact: The Dead bankrolled recordings of the music
of Elliott Carter. Carter is now 86 or 87 years old, turned
American "serious" music on its head 45 years ago with his
first string quartet, and is one of the few American composers
taken seriously by the European (French and German in particular)
avant garde. Carter's Concerto for Orchestra (1969) is now
generally regarded as one of the masterpieces of 20th century
music.
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sbj
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response 64 of 69:
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Aug 17 15:18 UTC 1995 |
re #62: Natural Selection.
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beeswing
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response 65 of 69:
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Aug 17 15:29 UTC 1995 |
Yep, survival of the fittest. And the Dead survived!
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sbj
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response 66 of 69:
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Aug 17 15:53 UTC 1995 |
On the contrary.. one of them didn't.
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rogue
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response 67 of 69:
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Aug 17 17:16 UTC 1995 |
#62: I don't recall saying The Dead are worthless pieces of shit, Trisha.
I do think we should keep things in perspective and not mention the
Dead in the same sentence as The Beatles when we're talking about
*music*.
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beeswing
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response 68 of 69:
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Aug 17 20:19 UTC 1995 |
I love the BEatles.... I have more of their albums than I do Dead albums.
I think they are both timeless groups, just in different ways. I don't tink
it's doing a disservice to either band to tie them in together.
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sbj
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response 69 of 69:
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Aug 18 17:47 UTC 1995 |
re #67: That's the second time you've done that yourself. ;)
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