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mart
response 50 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 10 11:59 UTC 2002

I also told about #43 and #47, and he was glad with that. He said he 
found another woman, not from this woman cf, who after two weeks of 
email was enourmous glad with his L+F relationship, completely already
trusting him. His former love has died due to an accident.
mart
response 51 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 12 12:38 UTC 2002

This is for me a long posting.

I mailed Loper again, asking him if he could come back. He was not 
trusted, thrown out the conference, and only one woman, Julie, answered 
him in his items, he answered. He felt badly treated for the first time 
by women.

Please don't reply this posting if you hate him, not trust him, in a so 
strong contrast with his other items.

When I entered this conference I expected here a cloud of new members, 
most women, but I see no one. Maybe new members have arrived, I don't 
know, but where are they posting. What is the level of posting?

I asked Loper, and yes, again, he mailed me a so easy solution, typical 
Loper. We all couldn't think of a so easy solution. 

This posting is not for them who see no problems. Please let the way 
free for them who see the problems. Now you see how different Loper 
writes.
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Loper:

Fairwitnesses.

Only post corrections below untrue postings, referring to the number 
#.  Not only below my postings but for all untrue posting.

Don't search for it, other members will show you them by an own posting 
at a specific place. If you can bear it and that item still exists, for 
instance "what are we posters doing".

It's not important that the distance between an untrue posting and the 
correction is huge. Refer only to it. Members will often look at the 
bottom and see the correction. And if more posting are done below it, 
the problem grows away automatically.

I like that all members are free to post everywhere, in my items as 
well.

But if I come back I like to be treated in a normal friendly way.

I like help for the technical side of freezing and other for me not 
easy things.

I wish you all, no one excluded, the best possible life. 

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This was Loper's text.

I'm less friendly. I like to exclude people who see Loper as a bad man.
How you think about me is irrelevant for me.
md
response 52 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 12 14:25 UTC 2002

I had to find out about all this from *mnet*, fer chrissake.  Looks to 
me like one "mnetter" talking to himself using various pseudos, and 
getting a bunch of gullible Gregales to respond.  You dodos will fall 
for anything.
mart
response 53 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 16 13:59 UTC 2002

Please fairwitnesses react to #51.
mart
response 54 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 18 19:31 UTC 2002

Faitwintnesses please read to #51. Post simple NO and I will leave this
cf for women. Or else post yes. 

It's totally your choice. 

Of course I like support from other members. Critics I've got enough.
cyklone
response 55 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 18 20:03 UTC 2002

Go to mnet and join the woman conference. You will be welcomed, not ignored.
mart
response 56 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 18 20:14 UTC 2002

Thank you, but I see it as my task to save THIS woman conference, it was
Lopers choice, but I will mail him about mnet as well. But it's his 
choice.

How can I reach mnet.

I like you that you're a musician

Martin
cyklone
response 57 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 18 22:21 UTC 2002

I'm not sure you have the ability to "save" this cf. I think the tel address
for M-net is m-net.arbornet.org  You may find that people don't agree with
you or loper, but no one will try to discourage you from participating.

I like that I'm a musician, too.  ;)
md
response 58 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 19 17:49 UTC 2002

No way cy is as gullible as the Gragales.  That can only mean that cy 
is the one.  
mart
response 59 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 25 22:51 UTC 2002

Still no simple NO of the two fairwitnesses, how can I further reach 
them, not by email no, I've tried that. Please I made a question #51, 
answer simple NO. How do you see not anwerering. Is that fair?  I know 
with your NO enough and I will leave this woman cf. 

Or did you leave this cf as well.
cyklone
response 60 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 26 20:34 UTC 2002

Can someone explain to me what this is about?
edina
response 61 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 28 17:50 UTC 2002

To be honest - no.
md
response 62 of 73: Mark Unseen   May 28 20:34 UTC 2002

It's some asshole pretending to be a furriner, possibly by running his 
text back and forth through a translator.  It started as a joke, but 
then everyone caught on and now he appears genuinely miffed that he's 
being ignored.  I love that.
mta
response 63 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 13:13 UTC 2002

OK, Martin.  I've caught up and have an answer for you, as fairwitness.

There is no need to "save" this conference.  It's running beautifully,  just as
it ought.

If it's not to your taste, there is always the "radio dial" solution.  Go find
something that *is* to your taste rather than trying to change a community that
is quite successful and happy the way it is.

Now, my fiance has just arrived from 10,000 miles away, I'm getting married in
12 days, and I have better things to worry about than God's special messenger
in any guise.

To be more specific, the answer to your question is "No, I don't have a
responsibility to save the Women's conference.  If it's useful, the members
will use it.  If it isn't useful, it will die, which is as it should be. 
That's the Grexian way."

mary
response 64 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 1 18:36 UTC 2002

Wow!  Best wishes, Misty!
headdoc
response 65 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 15:46 UTC 2002

Congratulations from me, too, Misti.  If you're willing, I'd love to hear all
about the wedding and the excitement around it.
mart
response 66 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 19:29 UTC 2002

Okay, I leave now this woman relation with too much fighting, it could 
b e far better conference.

Martin
mart
response 67 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 2 23:46 UTC 2002

Still one message MRS Misti a few of GREX not me and certainli I think 
not Loper will see your NO as a tradegy. You have are for few of GREX 
not really a friend dear Misti. Congratulations still from me in the 
aftermath.
cyklone
response 68 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 02:54 UTC 2002

Hey; no one warned me about an *aftermath*!
edina
response 69 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 14:42 UTC 2002

Heh.  Break out the whips and chains.
mta
response 70 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 3 15:36 UTC 2002

Thanks, Mary and Audrey!  I'll fill you in elsewhere, since this is hardly the
ideal place.  <grin>


Martin, I am not too concerned with whether you consider me a friend of Grex or
the women's conference or not.  The fighting you refer to happens from time to
time in every conference, usually in response to a new person who comes in
thinking they know what's best for the system without taking the time to get to
know the culture first.  

Grex was founded on the concept of completely free speech.  You are free to say
and believe whatever you widh here.  So is every other user of Grex.  If you
say something that people here object to, you can expect them to let you know
that or to ignore you. If someone says something you object to here, you have
the option of voicing the reasons for your displeasure or to ignore the person
who offends you.  

I recommend the latter to everyone.  Read and respond to what interests you and
ignore what doesn't interest you.  In that way, the women's congference, anmd
every other part of Grex, will become closer to what its users actually want to
participate in.  Attempts to force the conversation in the direction you want
it to go only breeds resistence and conflict.  Positive contribution creates
abundance and sustained pleasure.
mart
response 71 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 12 10:33 UTC 2002

Weak to make Loper's items retired. Think about yourself, You are a good
waman but such acts?
mart
response 72 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 07:55 UTC 2002

Retired is for visitores the same as deleting. Do you call this fair,
Please delete yout fairness, Is this courage? Is this a real honest
woman conference? Bad memories, bad publicity, only bad what you call
fairness.
mart
response 73 of 73: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 07:56 UTC 2002

Great solution ladies, shame yourself. 
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