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mju
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response 50 of 68:
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May 20 22:02 UTC 1995 |
I have a feeling that the other reason many Grex homepages are
boring is that Grex does not provide a very good environment for
creating a graphical homepage, since many of the people using
Grex for WWW stuff are accessing it through a text-only browser.
It's hard to do neat stuff with imagemaps, backgrounds, etc. when
your interface is an 80x24 glass tty...
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scg
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response 51 of 68:
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May 21 02:16 UTC 1995 |
It's also hard to images when it's going over a link that is incredibly
clogged, and that would be even more clogged if people started putting
images in their homepages.
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rcurl
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response 52 of 68:
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May 21 05:59 UTC 1995 |
I think boring or not comes from content, not images and other fluff. I'd
prefer an informative homepage to a pretty one, any day. However, this may
be a minority opinion - for the present. I took a 2 hour html workshop at
the U last week, which used a screen projector, and the person operating
it described and wrote the html examples too fast for one to comprehend
(much less duplicate on the computers at which the participants sat), and
then flicked to the resulting page, and left that lingering on the screen
(admiring his own work, I would say). They also, after maybe 15 minutes of
text html went to importing .gifs, etc. As a result, I learned much less
about *doing* html than I would have if they had avoided the fluff.
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srw
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response 53 of 68:
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May 21 07:07 UTC 1995 |
It's fluff that has the pizzazz that makes people get interested in the
Web, but I think one can do an excellent text-only page. Not only
are the people using Grex for WWW stuff limited to lynx, but even if
they want to install gifs or jpegs, we ask them not to, because
of link limitations.
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janc
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response 54 of 68:
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May 21 20:12 UTC 1995 |
Well, mine has a picture, but it is stored in Texas, not on Grex. So people
off Grex will see the picture, but won't be fetching it over Grex's link.
People on Grex would be moving it over Grex's link, but since they are all
using lynx, they won't after all.
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srw
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response 55 of 68:
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May 22 05:41 UTC 1995 |
My home page is here, but it points to another page on another system.
I call it my "home away from home". THat's where I put the pictures,
so they don't go over Grex's link. Not everyone is fortunate enough
to have such an alternate site.
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adbarr
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response 56 of 68:
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May 25 04:35 UTC 1995 |
But, we are working on the idea.
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peacefrg
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response 57 of 68:
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May 30 23:54 UTC 1995 |
My homepage is back up and a little interesting I hope.
Theres a lot of links, dirty pictures for the kinkos, and interesting (right)
things about me.
http://www.nether.net/~peacefrg/www/index.html
Netscape 1.1 enhanced.
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mcpoz
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response 58 of 68:
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May 31 01:03 UTC 1995 |
Can we set up Netscape 1.1 from within Grex to view graphics?
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steve
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response 59 of 68:
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May 31 01:19 UTC 1995 |
Nope. (sorry)
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adbarr
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response 60 of 68:
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May 31 01:39 UTC 1995 |
Steve, how about for seriously erotic pictures? Would that be ok?
I just read the articles anyway!
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scg
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response 61 of 68:
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May 31 04:38 UTC 1995 |
The problem isn't that we don't want Netscape to run on Grex, but that
Grex *can't* run Netscape. Netscape is graphical, and Grex does only text.
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srw
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response 62 of 68:
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May 31 04:55 UTC 1995 |
Yes, but there are ways to get Lynx to download images to
your PC or MAC, and view them there. When you are viewing a
page that you suspect has images, but cannot see them, type \
to get an unrendered version of the html. Look for img="filename.gif"
or similar forms, and the use G to specify the URL.
This consists of the URL of the pointing page with the last
file name in the hierarchy replaced by the .gif file name.
You are pretending that the html pointed to this file as a link,
rather than an img. This will cause lynx to offer to download it
for you.
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scg
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response 63 of 68:
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May 31 04:58 UTC 1995 |
I should note that that's not recommended over Grex's Internet link.
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selena
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response 64 of 68:
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May 31 05:28 UTC 1995 |
But possible <scribbling notes for use ELSEWHERE>
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robh
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response 65 of 68:
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May 31 10:18 UTC 1995 |
Depends how big the pictures are, I see no practical difference
between downloading a 25k GIF and a 25k text file via HTTPD.
Of course, I'm limited to small GIF's because that's all my
8088 can handle, GIF's larger than 200k are right out, as are
JPEG's and every other format. >8(
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ajax
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response 66 of 68:
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May 31 13:45 UTC 1995 |
25K of text, at 5 characters per word, is five thousand words.
A picture is worth only a thousand words. So downloading pictures
is clearly an inefficient use of the internet link. {:)
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adbarr
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response 67 of 68:
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Jun 1 02:54 UTC 1995 |
Re 62 - Wow! Srw - that is a gem if I have ever seen one! Re 64 - I want
a copy of those notes, and the URL's for "ELSEWHERE".
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marcvh
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response 68 of 68:
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Jun 10 18:26 UTC 1995 |
Text is also likely to be compressible by compression modems which some
low-bandwidth links may employ, while GIFs are already compressed and
generally not helped by this.
Even if you could run NutScrape on Grex, you wouldn't want to; it
makes the resource requirements of Emacs look downright tiny.
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