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Grex > Coop6 > #80: When who has used Grex dies | |
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mdw
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response 50 of 65:
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Jan 18 23:49 UTC 1995 |
The US postal service has a fix for that, Greg!
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gregc
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response 51 of 65:
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Jan 19 00:01 UTC 1995 |
Umm, yes? What do you mean?
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mdw
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response 52 of 65:
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Jan 19 05:02 UTC 1995 |
The US Postal service has introduced a serious proposal to market the
electronic equivalent of "post stamps" for e-mail. Presumably, if they
follow the paper mail model, they'll require post stamps for anything
that travels across a "common carrier" mail switch, such as the
internet, but not for mail that is purely internal, such as between
points inside the same university, or inside the same company.
Presumably, with this model, any e-mail that left grex would need such a
"stamp".
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gerund
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response 53 of 65:
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Jan 19 10:01 UTC 1995 |
Let's make lots of money mentality.
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davel
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response 54 of 65:
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Jan 19 23:02 UTC 1995 |
"a serious proposal to *market* ...", hah. It's not marketing when you
pass laws to require consumption & prohibit competition.
And you can slip mail under your neighbor's door if there's a big enough
gap, but if you put it in a mailbox or mail slot you're in danger of
going to jail.
Just what we need in email!
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scg
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response 55 of 65:
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Jan 20 00:43 UTC 1995 |
Furthermore, the Postal Service at least owns its trucks and post offices,
and pays the salaries of those who sort and deliver the mail. OTOH, last
I heard, the Postal Service does not own the Internet, and I'm assuming
that if this were implemented the only costs for the postal service would
be billing.
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jep
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response 56 of 65:
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Jan 20 03:04 UTC 1995 |
I wonder how they'll charge for Usenet News?
Mail that comes to me here is forwarded to me on M-Net; it gets
picked up via netmeg or goes out over the Internet, and then gets
delivered to M-Net. At M-Net it is forwarded again to my modem-connected
computer, and I can read it wherever I happen to be, either on M-Net or at
home. I wonder how I'd get billed? And how much.
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mdw
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response 57 of 65:
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Jan 20 06:20 UTC 1995 |
Part of the concern of the post office is that e-mail is apparently
competing very successfully with first class mail - and cutting into
their "monopoly". The post office, as a whole, is supposed to "break
even" - so the price for a particular service could be either more or
less than the cost of delivering that service. There are also extra
services the post office could offer: for instance, it would probably be
very interested in tracking down abuse of e-mail (obscene mail,
spamming) and doing something about it. I believe the post office is
interested in implementing some form of electronic money exchange. The
post office might also find itself interested in providing better means
to verify the sender's identity.
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gerund
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response 58 of 65:
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Jan 20 10:37 UTC 1995 |
Frightening ideas.
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sidhe
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response 59 of 65:
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Jan 26 20:22 UTC 1995 |
WAY back in response #9, brenda <?> suggested that we hand the account
and password over to the next of kin. My concern is simple.. What would
you think, if, two weeks after your good friend here died, suddenly you
ran who, only to see them online! The potential problems arising from
that are phenomenal!
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remmers
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response 60 of 65:
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Jan 26 20:59 UTC 1995 |
That could be addressed by changing the login id and fullname of the account.
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popcorn
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response 61 of 65:
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Jan 27 03:17 UTC 1995 |
(if Grex's login ID changing software were working)
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sidhe
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response 62 of 65:
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Jan 27 15:02 UTC 1995 |
Well, until the software is up and running, that isn't an option.
Any other ideas?
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lilmo
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response 63 of 65:
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Jan 30 01:28 UTC 1995 |
Remember sidhe, word wrap MANUALLY !! :)
Getting back to the original problem, what to do when a Grexer dies: It seems
that the legal and moral thing to do would be to inform the executor that the
account exists, and the time remaining before "reaping", and then follow the
procedure listed in #36. The users have trusted Grex with whatever is in their
account, just as a bank has been trusted with the contents of a safe-deposit
box.
Re: #46: Since root has access to it anyways, then it's not really private.
*shrug*
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scg
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response 64 of 65:
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Jan 30 03:41 UTC 1995 |
I'm assuming banks do have some way of knowing who a safety deposit box is
being rented to? That would seperate the situation faced by banks from
the situation Grex faces.
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sidhe
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response 65 of 65:
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Jan 30 03:49 UTC 1995 |
Sorry about the scrolling problem.
It is true, that this is a sticky situation. I liked the ideas
above <the software-dependant ones> and, as soon as the software is running,
I'd like to see that implemented.
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