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tsty
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response 50 of 69:
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May 22 08:07 UTC 2002 |
sad to hear that - good luck.
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scott
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response 51 of 69:
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Jun 21 19:56 UTC 2002 |
Everybody in SE Michigan is getting pounded with rain... except Ann Arbor.
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mynxcat
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response 52 of 69:
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Jun 21 20:10 UTC 2002 |
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brighn
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response 53 of 69:
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Jun 21 20:38 UTC 2002 |
Yes.
(It's closer to Lake Erie than it is to Lake Superior, and it's SE of Lansing,
which is roughly halfway across the state [the Lansing-Grand Rapids drive and
the Lansing-St Clair Shores drive are both about an hour and three-quarters,
give or take]).
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mynxcat
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response 54 of 69:
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Jun 21 20:55 UTC 2002 |
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mcnally
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response 55 of 69:
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Jun 21 21:16 UTC 2002 |
re #54: even without the UP upping the ante on north/south distances
within the state, Ann Arbor would still pretty clearly be in the SE.
re #53: having grown up in North Muskegon, I'm always kind of baffled by
statements that directly or implicitly equate "Western Michigan" and
"Grand Rapids". If you're going to go east until you hit Lake St. Clair
(or better, Huron..) why stop 40 miles shy of Lake Michigan when travelling
west?
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brighn
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response 56 of 69:
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Jun 21 21:55 UTC 2002 |
Grand Rapids is also displaced farther north from Lansing, while Lansing and
St. Clair are pretty much on the same latitude, aren't they? Hm. Lemme go
check a map...
According to my map, St Clair Shores is actually about as far west of the
easternmost point of Michigan (Port Huron) as Grand Rapids is east of Lake
Michigan. Maybe it's just my map, though... it doesn't seem that far. Then
again, the map also shows Grand Rapids as being 25 miles from Lake Michigan,
not 40 (it's 40 miles from Muskegon, but apparently Mike, our expert on the
Western side of the state, is unaware that Muskegon is Northwest of Grand
Rapids, not west of it).
But, since Mike is concerned about accuracy, Lansing is 100 miles due west
of Marine City (south of Port Huron) and 100 miles due east of a spot in Lake
Michigan due north of Benton Harbor, so it's the best point of reference for
"east" and "west" in the LP. The "major" city closest to the center of the
LP is actually Mt. Pleasant, which is significantly north of both Muskegon
and Lansing, so I'm surprised you didn't also squawk about my definition of
"Southern" Michigan, Mike. ;}
(According to my map, if you drew a rectangle around the lower peninsula to
include everything but the islands, the center of that rectangle would be
Coleman, which is about 10 MI NE of Mt. Pleasant.) If you did the same thing
but included the UP, you'd wind up in Lake Michigan, ner Arcadia or Elberta.
Wheeee... =}
But we trolls usually don't care about the Yoopers, especially since something
like half the population of the state lives in the six counties including and
around Detroit.
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ric
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response 57 of 69:
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Jun 22 01:18 UTC 2002 |
I put in just "MI" in Mapquest, and it centered the map of Michigan with a
star on Traverse City.
I would consider western michigan to be anything near US-131 and west (Grand
Rapids, Kalamazoo) as far north as perhaps Ludington. Central Michigan
includes Lansing, Bay City, Midland, Standish, Big Rapids.. northern Michigan
is anything is anything north of Standish (where US-23 and I-75 split),
including Houghton, Alpena, Gaylord, Grayling, Traverse City, Petoskey,
Cheboygan, etc.
Southern Michigan is really a very small area in my opinion, consisting only
of areas south of I-94 between US-131 and US-23 (excluding metro areas
associated with the latter two roads). Ie, Jackson, Marshall, Coldwater.
The Upper Peninsula is completely separate. :)
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jep
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response 58 of 69:
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Jun 22 02:34 UTC 2002 |
re #57: Houghton (in the Keeweenaw Peninsula) is a longer drive away
from the Mackinac Bridge than Detroit. The UP is 53% of the land area
of Michigan. Were you referring to Houghton Lake?
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gull
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response 59 of 69:
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Jun 22 14:33 UTC 2002 |
Re #56: St. Louis, Michigan has a sign that claims to mark the geographic
center of the lower peninsula.
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brighn
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response 60 of 69:
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Jun 22 14:47 UTC 2002 |
#59> The sign's wrong. I measured it again on a different map, and it still
comes out a few miles west of Coleman, about 35 miles north of St. Louis
(which is indeed on the central longitude, just not the central latitude).
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gull
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response 61 of 69:
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Jun 22 16:31 UTC 2002 |
It may depend on how you measure. I bet it'd come out different if you took
the center of mass of the state's silhouette. ;)
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other
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response 62 of 69:
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Jun 22 18:34 UTC 2002 |
brighn, consider that the projection of the map you are using might
distort the result.
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brighn
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response 63 of 69:
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Jun 22 21:40 UTC 2002 |
Waht a great idea. I took the distortion into affect, and measure the distance
of Mackincaw City south of 46d and Waldron south of 42d, divided that in half,
and measured the distance of the midpoint between those distances south of
44d (Waldron is slightly farther south of 42d than Mackinaw is south of 46d).
Yep, sure enough, my point moved... it's now a few miles NORTH of Coleman.
Either St Louis is wrong or Rand McNally is wrong. I know which one MY money's
on. ;}
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gull
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response 64 of 69:
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Jun 22 21:43 UTC 2002 |
I think you should let them have it anyway. They don't have anything else
to claim for their crummy little town. ;)
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brighn
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response 65 of 69:
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Jun 22 23:47 UTC 2002 |
Thank God you caught me! I had just pencilled in driving to St Louis, taking
there sign, and putting it in its rightful place in Coleman, as tomorrow's
activity. Now I cnan spend my Sunday doing something productive instead.
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gull
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response 66 of 69:
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Jun 23 02:37 UTC 2002 |
Glad to be of service. Though come to think of it Coleman doesn't have much
going for it, either. ;)
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brighn
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response 67 of 69:
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Jun 24 00:42 UTC 2002 |
They can both have a sign, for all I really care. =} I just have an OCD
streak, that's all.
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slynne
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response 68 of 69:
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Jun 24 16:10 UTC 2002 |
maybe they could have a big fight over it?
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brighn
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response 69 of 69:
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Jun 24 18:27 UTC 2002 |
Oh... they could get teams, and have a war, Mt. Pleasant could arm them with
salad shooters loaded with poker chips from the Casino...
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