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kami
response 50 of 71: Mark Unseen   Nov 1 03:41 UTC 1994

SRW, you and I should talk sometime. I have a fair amount of Spanish, but
certainly I would have trouble helping new grexers...(whether or not I
have the vocabulary for it<g>), a tiny bit of French, a wee bit of Hebrew,
and I once learned a few useful phrases of Japanese but that didn't last
long.  I had fun exchanging mail with Stella in English, Spanish and
Hebrew, but my French isn't sufficient for such purposes. 
carson
response 51 of 71: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 12:20 UTC 1994

I'd developed an interest in Greek letters as early as 4th grade. I
later became interested in Latin, but was stuck inSpanish because Latin
wasn't offered at my junior high. I eventually took five years of Spanish,
and also studied French for a year and a half. I'm planning to minor in
both languages in college.

verbal
response 52 of 71: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 21:59 UTC 1994

I've taken Spanish in high school, but did rather poorly.  Mainly because
I didn't care about much baack in High School.
I hope maybe that I can study French when I go back to college though.
asp
response 53 of 71: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 23:50 UTC 1994

I started taking spanish in jr high, but I learned almost nothing of the 
language, which was still more than I think my classmates learned, since at
least I was totally in love with the language (I thought I might be a Spanish
major while I did my requirements for engineering)  In college, because of my
ability to read Spanish, (the placement test was written), I placed into
Spanish three adn that was _Scary_ since I had never had to actually converse
much in High School (I'm not kidding, the class was conducted in English, and
it was an accelerated class too!)  But I picked it up relatively quickly, and
lost it quickly, too, since the summer after I took it, it took a term of
French, and then went back and took a term of Spanish.  I still love the
language and I truly beleive that the reason to take a language is to
understand that other people talk in other languages and I beleive that the
real reason people should take languages is to communicate with others and
learn how others who speak different languages think differently.  (and
similarly, of course) now, I'm  in love with a Mexican who gets thrilled when I
try and talk to him in Spanish, but my skills have all but left me, and I find
I'm scared sometimes to talk  because I can hear how bad my Spanish is. 


lynne
response 54 of 71: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 14:57 UTC 1994

Wow....I feel so illiterate!  I took five years of German in junior/senior
high school and am now continuing with it my freshman year in college.  I
absolutely love it <despite my bad experience with my first teacher, or
maybe she was just a bad teacher> but I'd really like to branch out and
learn more languages.  I think one of the most fascinating things is looking
at Dutch and being able to pick out more or lss whwas being said.
Problem with taking more languages is, i'm afraid that I'd lose my German...not
really enthusiastic about the prospect after five years of trying to remember
the basics!
kami
response 55 of 71: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 06:44 UTC 1994

I find, when I'm struggling with Irish, Spanish seems SO much easier, and
even the little bit of French and Hebrew I retain comes leaping to the
front of my mind (leaving me to wade through it all for the right Irish
word...)
asp
response 56 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 23:02 UTC 1995

Yeah, I just came back from India where I visited both branches of my family
(which speak different languages) and it's funny, because I don't really speak
either, but I understand a lot, but often when I try to think of something to
say, Spanish keeps on coming to mind, and when I try and think of something in
Spanish when I'm over there, it's really hard.  Immersion is a great thing for
picking up a language, though.  It's only been a little more than 24 hours
since I left, and I already feel I'm losing my grip on Hindi and Bengali, for
the moment...
rachels
response 57 of 71: Mark Unseen   Mar 16 22:35 UTC 1995

Languages fascinate me.  There is nothing else I'd rather study.  Unfortuatly,
I live in the Sault, also known as HICKTOWN.  The only people who can speak 
anything are the teachers, but I long for someone to talk to, who doesn't \
make me feel like a pathetic learner.  I have studied French, Spanish,
German, and Italian, and I want to learn everything else!!  My continent  
of choice is Africa ( I want to learn a Khoisian [click] language) and I
would love to be a part of the Peace Corps, the Un , or UNESCO.  Any
advice would be appreciated.  I know I sound like a starry-eyed dreamer, 
but there's always got to be a few of us around.
kami
response 58 of 71: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 07:17 UTC 1995

Keep dreaming!  You'll make it come true.
simcha
response 59 of 71: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 19:02 UTC 1995

r 57:  I used to hire peace corps "graduates" but found they were
starry eyed dreamers.  I really enjoyed what I learned from their world
perspectives tho'--it is a field worth pursuing, and language proficiency
is not mandatory.  They do like some technical backgrounds, you 
may want to want to contact them before they are slashed out of 
the budget.  The UN has far more foreigners employed than US citizens, 
to compensate for our influenceby virtue of its location.
There aare many futures which allow you to indulge in a daily hobby of
enjoying languages without being an interpreter, internat'l flight
attendant, or language teacher.  

I started with Biblical Hebrew in 4th grade (forced) and lousy teachers.
Thought I'd hate languages, but tried Spanish in 7th, nad enjoyed it.
One language was required in HS for the college-bound students (not
forced, but Very Strongly Recommended).  I continued w/spanish & took
French also.  We had a choice of those, or German, Russian, Italian, 
Greek, Lati.
rachels
response 60 of 71: Mark Unseen   Mar 23 21:56 UTC 1995

Unless I was bestowed with some amazing governmental grant to study other 
countries, I can't think of any careers besides interpreters, translators,
or flight attendants.  But I really don't know what's out there.  Next year
I'm going to CMU, which has a sad little lineup of French , Spanish, German
and two-year courses in Russian and japanese.  Does anyone out there know 
any Arabic?
davel
response 61 of 71: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 01:12 UTC 1995

There are a lot of fields where knowledge of languages is not the main
thing but can be a big plus.  My wife has a nodding acquaintance with
several languages (though really fluent only in English); she found this
very helpful working as a cataloguer in the UM library.  Books come through
in all kinds of languages; to catalogue them one need not read them in
detail, but must identify certain significant pieces of information.
I've known engineers who were busy studying German and Chinese in order
to deal with clients, vendors, or peers in Germany and China.  I'm certain
that in many such jobs a solid knowledge of some particular languages,
coupled with some background in another field, can find a home.
kingjon
response 62 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 02:16 UTC 2006

At my high school a foreign language was not required for graduation but very
strongly recommended for everyone planning to go to any serious college
(because every college expected its serious students to have taken a language
in high school along with lots of math, science, and English). I'm not sure why
I picked Spanish, possibly because those people I most wanted to share classes
with were taking it too (though we didn't end up in the same Spanish class
until sophomore year at the earliest). I don't regret taking it in high school
at all -- on the contrary, I wish I had put more effort into it. I learned just
enough to ace the placement exam at college orientation but not enough to feel
prepared for the class the test put me in.

aruba
response 63 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 22:22 UTC 2006

I chose German when I was in High School, because I'd heard that a lot of
technical things were written in German.  21 years later, that finally paid
off, when I passed the German test as part of the requirement to get my
Ph.D.  In retrospect, I probably would have been better off with Spanish or
even Latin.

But studying a foreign language taught me a lot about English, too.
kingjon
response 64 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 22:39 UTC 2006

We only had Spanish and French available.

rcurl
response 65 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 01:27 UTC 2006

I also took German in high school (3 years) and it paid off when I passed
the German test for my degree (although doctoral programs in science no longer
have a language requirement) and, most amazingly, when I went to Europe on
a German liner and discovered I could converse in German. 
aruba
response 66 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 20:26 UTC 2006

Re #65: The Math program at UM does still have a language requirement,
though they have cut it from 2 languages to 1 since I started back in 1990.
rcurl
response 67 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 04:18 UTC 2006

You are quite right for the doctorate in Math at UM. There is no foreign 
language requirement for a Masters in Math. The Engineering College has 
eliminated it across the board. I checked on the requirement in 
Mathematics at MIT, and one can satisfy their language requirement by one 
of the following:

# native fluency
# two years of the language in high school with the grade of C or better
# one year of the language in college with the grade of C or better
# one semester of the language courses being given at MIT with the grade of
  C or better
# taking the language examination given at MIT

So, in effect, there is only a vestige of a language requirement.

A more general search found that there are still some language 
requirements for the doctorate in particular disciplines at some schools. 
It hasn't disappeared entirely. 
keesan
response 68 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 16:19 UTC 2006

I just got an email from Boston College athletics department asking if I could
test one of their students for native fluency in Macedonian, because they
could not find anyone in Boston at the Boston Language Institute so they found
me online.  The odd thing about this is that I work for the Boston Language
Institute as a translator and I also have a Master's from the Boston College
Slavic Languages department, who they forgot to ask for help.  Once I was
asked at U of M to 'test' a native speaker of Albanian.  So football players
there seem to have a language requirement.
rcurl
response 69 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 20:59 UTC 2006

As far as I can find out, Boston College does not offer any advanced 
degrees in athletics. However in "arts and sciences" it has no overall 
language requirement for the doctoral degree but leaves this up to the 
individual departments. But you have a connection with BC, Sindi: what 
degree program would the student be in that apparently has a language 
requirement and accepts "# native fluency"?
keesan
response 70 of 71: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 21:50 UTC 2006

I have no idea, but the email had something about an athletics department in
it.  Maybe one of their football players had a language requirement for his
undergrad degree.
juicy
response 71 of 71: Mark Unseen   Apr 22 19:06 UTC 2006

took several years of spanish in middle/high school, but passed on the fifth
year because i didn't like the guy who taught it.

took a semester of French and another semester of Spanish in college, although
by having had at least two years in high school i'd already satisfied the
college's general-studies requirement. . .
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