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tod
response 5 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 16:28 UTC 2006

re #0
"Die, You Little Black Babies"
LMAO! Crass but funny!
johnnie
response 6 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 16:33 UTC 2006

The nitwit in #0 (I mean the politician, not "klg") isn't promoting
abortion per se, anyway; she's arguing for eugenics, which is a whole
other controversy.
nharmon
response 7 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 16:36 UTC 2006

In all fairness, pro-abortion as used by most of us means pro-abortion-
rights. Its like pro-gun-rights being shortened to pro-gun. Being pro-
gun doesn't mean we want to force everybody to own a gun. Capice?
jadecat
response 8 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 16:48 UTC 2006

No, pro-choice is already a term in use that better describes the
position- which is vastly different than pro-abortion. I'm
anti-abortion, but pro-choice. I think woman have the right to have a
choice in whether they continue a pregenancy or not. If that choice is
TO continue I support that too.
tod
response 9 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 16:59 UTC 2006

No, klg was right on target describing me.  I'm pro-abortion.  I think
abortions should be a contact sport held in Winter Olympics.  Half those guys
you see as oil execs probably caused several on their golf outing trysts. 
Heck, GW Bush even caused one.
johnnie
response 10 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:04 UTC 2006

It should be noted, too, that many anti-abortion types don't like being
called "anti-abortion"; they prefer "pro-life".  
marcvh
response 11 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:09 UTC 2006

I have never heard someone use the term "pro-abortion" with reference
to themselves in a serious context; it's a label which is pretty much
exclusively used by people who oppose it, which should provide a hint
as to its accuracy.

By contrast, "pro-gun" is a term which many people do use to refer to
themselves rather than to other people, which leads me to believe that
they consider it an appropriate phrasing.  This makes sense if you think
about it; lots of NRA members will freely brag about how many guns they
own and how many more they would like to own, while very few Planned
Parenthood members will freely brag about how many abortions they've had
and how any more they would like to have in the future.
tod
response 12 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:10 UTC 2006

Ceaucescu was pro-life
klg
response 13 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:10 UTC 2006

RW - Red China is a repressive totalitarian regime.  The Netherlands 
isn't . . . . . quite yet.


Johnny/johnnie

Try not to use words you don't understand.

eu gen ics [ yoo j nniks ] noun  
Definitions:  selective breeding as proposed human improvement: the 
proposed improvement of the human species by encouraging or permitting 
reproduction of only those people with genetic characteristics judged 
desirable.

The proposal deals with reducing the number of poor, unwanted, unhappy 
children, not with breeding by genetic characteristics.


Now, does anyone actually have anything substantive to say?
 
edina
response 14 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:49 UTC 2006

Well then what would you call it?
johnnie
response 15 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:11 UTC 2006

Blondie wants to use forced contraception and abortion ("selective
breeding") to cut down on the number of children born to black folk,
drug addicts, and the mentally handicapped ("genetic characteristics")
to make the Netherlands a better place ("proposed improvement").  Fits
the definition well enough for me, Ran--er, "klg".
keesan
response 16 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:21 UTC 2006

Babies born to drug users (this includes caffeine and nicotine and alcohol)
have lower birth weight and more genetic defects.
happyboy
response 17 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:50 UTC 2006

no shit?
tod
response 18 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 18:52 UTC 2006

My brother was a HUGE PUMPKIN and mom drank and smoked like Jerry Lee Lewis
locked in a bowling alley.
jep
response 19 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:08 UTC 2006

re resp:10: I am anti-abortion.  I am anti-choice on abortion.  I am 
pro-life in that I favor the life of the fetus over the choice of it's 
mother.  I oppose the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe vs. Wade decision.

My order of preference on the social issue of abortion is:
1. Constitutional Amendment illegalizing abortion
2. National law illegalizing abortion
3. Overthrow of Roe v Wade, returning the issue to the states to decide
4. Restrictions on techniques, drugs, doctors, hospitals, etc.

Say it how you want to say it, my opinion is that abortion is bad and 
that it is murder of an innocent child.  The label you use doesn't 
matter to me.
tod
response 20 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:21 UTC 2006

I have sort of the same opinion except my opinion is that guys shouldn't be
allowed to vote on a woman's body nor should they be allowed to support a war
if they're not a veteran nor have the capacity/intention to enlist.
I am in favor of the life of our military and women over that of pussies.
Unless a guy is willing to submit to shitting a 12 lb bowling ball, then he
should keep his laws off women.
jadecat
response 21 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:24 UTC 2006

resp: 19 Because women just don't matter.

If abortion is illegal than EVERY single man who impregnates a woman had
better be legally liable for part of her health care and the needs for
that child. Lawmakers had better get off their asses and make sure that
there are actually some responsible men out there who are also forced to
take care of a responsiblity they don't want.
tod
response 22 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:27 UTC 2006

re #21
I agree.  Any guy who gets a fat chick pregnant should have to marry her if
they overturn Roe v. Wade.  Then, we can turn our clocks back to the 1950's
and watch Ricky beat Lucy's ass for burning his toast.
*rolls eyes*

Banning abortion is the dumbest idea ever.
jadecat
response 23 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:32 UTC 2006

Heh, well maybe not marry- but definitely be in as deep financially as
she is. And provide medical care for the kid, AND be there like she has
to be, and so on. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
keesan
response 24 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:32 UTC 2006

How about passing a national health care bill that at least takes care of the
health of all the unwanted babies that would be born if abortion were made
illegal (also the health of anyone getting an illegal abortion that they
survive).  Why are the conservatives so often in favor of making more unwanted
babies but not taking care of them once they are born?  Would conservatives
oppose free prenatal and postnatal health care for all mothers?
kingjon
response 25 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:35 UTC 2006

Conservatives aren't in favor of *making* unwanted babies, just not in favor of
*killing* them. I'm against abortion for the same reason as I'm against
infanticide, because in my mind it's the same thing.

tod
response 26 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:35 UTC 2006

They want as many desperate and poor citizens in America as possible so they
can line their pockets with the sweat off these people by using them for our
military, farm labor, sweatshops, factories, and whatever else suits.
Those that aren't rich but call themselves conservative are stuck in a fantasy
of the "American Dream" where they somebody own their own company and repeat
this inhumane slavery.
tod
response 27 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 20:39 UTC 2006

re #25
Not killing them?  Criminal homicide, mortality rates, and military enlistment
are all an indicator of the overall health of a community. It is
influenced by many factors, including the health of mothers and infants, the
quality of the health care system, mother's income and education, and numerous
aspects of the neighborhoods in which families live.
jep
response 28 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 21:12 UTC 2006

re resp:21: I completely agree with you on that.  It should be part of 
the anti-abortion agenda.
tod
response 29 of 331: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 21:21 UTC 2006

Yea, you're going to get a rapist or high school kids to foot the bills?
Nice pipedream.  I guess if you like the insanity of overpopulated Catholic
countries then you can always move to Brazil or something.
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