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sj2
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response 49 of 140:
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Dec 16 16:41 UTC 2003 |
And BBC News is liberal?? How about CNN?
Hehehe ... I don't know if this is true ... but still thought it was
worth posting.
From http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i3mediawatch.htm
MAY 15, 2003 MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA Taking on those Democrats and
others who are unpatriotic , Australian-owned Fox News, USA Today, NY
Post, Chicago Sun Times, and numerous other Aussie-controlled news
operations promise to clear things up by presenting the true, American
view of things.
Rupert Murdoch, owner of all the above listed news sources and many,
many more helped explain his Americanizing mission from his
original home town of Melbourne, Australia.
As someone who was born in Australia, said Rupert Murdoch, speaking
beside a barbie on which he was throwing another shrimp, and who is
married to a woman who is from China, I feel that I and my Australian-
owned news sources are the most qualified to present the true American
perspective on things. Those other, American-owned news sources, like
the New York Times and NPR, simply don t know anything about being a
good American. They betray American values on a daily basis, as far as
I can tell from down here on the other side of the world, where I was
born and all my family live.
The American flag a permanent fixture on the screen of his Fox News
Network, Murdoch sits stroking his pet koala, eating some Vegamite,
pointing out a kangaroo in the distance. Of course my news sources
are the real American ones. How could some paper owned by New Yorkers
be more patriotic than the ones owned by me? Or a radio network funded
by donations from American listeners? No, no, no. I know the true
voice of America, like no American possibly could if I didn t spell it
out for them on a daily basis.
Throughout the interview, his love and respect for his wife Wendy Deng
Murdoch was very much apparent. Any time I have some doubts about
whether I since I am not from America am striking the right
American note, I ask Wendy, who is also from the other side of the
world. Between my Down-Under upbringing and her Red China view of
things, we come up with the real American perspective like no actual
American possibly could.
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slynne
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response 50 of 140:
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Dec 16 16:54 UTC 2003 |
Hahaha, that is funny :)
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twenex
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response 51 of 140:
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Dec 16 17:39 UTC 2003 |
The BBC is independent.
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sj2
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response 52 of 140:
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Dec 16 19:24 UTC 2003 |
"And BBC News is liberal?? How about CNN?"
Sorry, forgot to add the <sarcasm> tags there!! :)
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scg
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response 53 of 140:
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Dec 16 19:58 UTC 2003 |
If there's a lesson to be learned from Saddam's request to negotiate, it's
that in any negotiations it helps to have something to negotiate with.
Assuming he was really stuck at the bottom of a hole with a bunch of big guns
pointed at him, he was a little late.
Then again, it may have been more a case of, "I want to talk, not shoot, so
please don't shoot me," which sounds quite reasonable.
I'm rather disgusted by all the calls for killing him now. He's certainly
not somebody I feel strongly about keeping alive, but what would we gain by
killing him, other than a morbid spectacle.
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slynne
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response 54 of 140:
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Dec 16 20:24 UTC 2003 |
I dont think there is a lot to be gained from killing him either. And
yet, I cant bring myself to feel sorry for him even though I know that
is likely to be the outcome of all of this.
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jep
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response 55 of 140:
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Dec 16 20:38 UTC 2003 |
I don't think he'll be executed. There's too much information wanted
by the government that he has.
I did read an article in the AA News, broadly hinting that pain,
discomfort, refusing trips to the bathroom, etc. could be used on Iraqi
military leaders, possibly including Saddam Hussein. The headline
stated something about heads of state being immune to such treatment,
but the body of the article only suggested it was possible he'd be
treated more respectfully.
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scott
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response 56 of 140:
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Dec 16 20:49 UTC 2003 |
After Bush and others using the torture angle to further demonize Saddam, like
mentioning specific torture techniques in major speeches (I've seen Bush do
this), it would be rather cynical of America to then condone torture in some
cases.
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tod
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response 57 of 140:
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Dec 16 22:43 UTC 2003 |
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jmsaul
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response 58 of 140:
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Dec 17 03:12 UTC 2003 |
Re #44: The anti-Saddam demonstrations are no secret. The subtle point,
that's going to become less subtle now, is that the people who are
demonstrating against Saddam don't actually want us around either.
Some of them have used violence against the Baathists, and will be
happy to use it against us, too -- and I'm not just talking about
radical Moslems, because a lot of Iraqis are strong secular
nationalists.
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klg
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response 59 of 140:
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Dec 17 03:28 UTC 2003 |
(Yeah, right. They were happier with the good old days of being
kidnapped, tortured, & killed. Who wouldn't be?)
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mcnally
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response 60 of 140:
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Dec 17 04:42 UTC 2003 |
re #59: that's not at all what he said. it's clear that you don't
believe it either. so why bother to write crap like that?
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fitz
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response 61 of 140:
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Dec 17 07:32 UTC 2003 |
Hooray for the capture of Saddam.
His detainment will make the world as safe from terrorism as
the arrest of Noriega stopped the drug problem.
You're safe, Momma. You're safe, baby.
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sj2
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response 62 of 140:
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Dec 17 07:58 UTC 2003 |
Re #53, I think what Saddam meant by *negotiating*, when he asked a US
soldier for it, was whether somehow he could pay something to the
soldiers and get away. Because, at that point of time, there was
nothing else to negotiate. Remember, he had US$750,000 with him on
person and maybe more elsewhere. They even found ~US$650 million in a
hut in the middle of nowhere, earlier.
He might have thought that kind of money may buy him freedom.
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sj2
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response 63 of 140:
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Dec 17 11:37 UTC 2003 |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3326311.stm
Bush wants him executed.
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twenex
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response 64 of 140:
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Dec 17 12:09 UTC 2003 |
Heavens, what a surprise.
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gull
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response 65 of 140:
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Dec 17 14:51 UTC 2003 |
Re resp:53: Killing him will make him a martyr. The worst punishment
for someone like him would be to lock him up in a cell for the rest of
his life, with no control over anyone. Maybe give him some pictures of
his old palaces to look at.
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gull
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response 66 of 140:
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Dec 17 14:52 UTC 2003 |
Re resp:63: Well, of course. Bush comes from Texas, where executions
are considered entertainment.
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bru
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response 67 of 140:
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Dec 17 14:52 UTC 2003 |
I am sure a number of families of our dead soldiers would like him dead as
well.
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other
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response 68 of 140:
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Dec 17 16:49 UTC 2003 |
Cut off his tongue and his hands and set him free.
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tembpoib
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response 69 of 140:
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Dec 17 16:50 UTC 2003 |
Re: 65. To be a martyr, you have to go out on a blaze of glory. Saddam will
more likely be seen as an embarassment for not fighting to the death.
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scg
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response 70 of 140:
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Dec 17 16:56 UTC 2003 |
Bush, or Hussein?
We don't like Hussein because he kills people he doesn't like, so we want to
kill him. I certainly don't want the society I'm part of to function that
way. Unlike Hussein, I have no desire to kill people, even people I don't
like.
He's under our control now. He's not in a position to do any further damage.
We've certianly got enough other problems in Iraq, many of them his legacy
and many of them of our own making. We should work on fixing those, not on
some mindless vengence.
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twenex
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response 71 of 140:
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Dec 17 17:00 UTC 2003 |
Any death penalty should be imposed after a fair trial, according to
the laws of a free and democratic Iraq, or according to international
law, depending on the venue. I oppose the death penalty, but on moral
grounds, not because I give a damn what happens to that... animal.
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rcurl
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response 72 of 140:
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Dec 17 17:43 UTC 2003 |
Re #67: keep some balance, bru. I suspect that a lot of Iraqi families
would like to see Bush dead for all their innocent relatives that were
killed in the invasion and aftermath - vastly more, too, than the number
of US soliders that have been killed. Don't you have any concern for the
innocent Iraqi civilians?
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twenex
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response 73 of 140:
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Dec 17 17:56 UTC 2003 |
Bru and balance have nothing more in common than that the first
lettrer of each word is "b".
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