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klg
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response 467 of 526:
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Mar 9 01:29 UTC 2006 |
Hahahah hoo-hahaha. Oh me, oh my. You're killing me, RW. Those quotes
I "made up" are from Curl's definition of "liberal." I can't take it no
more. Keep 'em comin, babe.
Reid s Liberal Voting Record Speaks For Itself:
Deseret News: Reid Is One Of The Most Liberal Members Of Congress.
(Lee Davidson, More LDS Members In Congress Than Ever Before: 17,
Deseret News, 11/18/98)
After Losing A Senate Bid In 1974, Reid Ruefully Concluded, Nevada
Isn t As Liberal As We Thought. (Thomas B. Edsall, Balancing
Nevada, National Interests, The Washington Post, 2/1/05)
Reid s Most Recent Overall National Journal Rating Was Farther To The
Left Than Liberal Icons Such As Sens. Chris Dodd (D-CT), Chuck Schumer
(D-NY), And Joe Biden (D-DE). (National Journal Website,
nationaljournal.com , Accessed 12/3/04)
* According To Non-Partisan National Journal, Reid Was More Liberal
On Economic Issues Than Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA). (National Journal
Website, nationaljournal.com, Accessed 12/3/04)
* According To Non-Partisan National Journal, Reid Was More Liberal
On Foreign Policy Issues Than Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) And Sen. Hillary
Clinton (D-NY). (National Journal Website, nationaljournal.com, Accessed
12/4/04)
From 1991-2004, Reid And Former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD) Voted Together
87% Of The Time. (CQ Vote Analysis, Performed 1/31/05)
* In The 102nd Congress, Reid Voted With Daschle 81% Of The Time.
(CQ Vote Analysis, Performed 1/31/05)
* In The 103rd Congress, Reid Voted With Daschle 87% Of The Time.
(CQ Vote Analysis, Performed 1/31/05)
* In The 104th Congress, Reid Voted With Daschle 80% Of The Time.
(CQ Vote Analysis, Performed 1/31/05)
* In The 105th Congress, Reid Voted With Daschle 86% Of The Time.
(CQ Vote Analysis, Performed 1/31/05)
* In The 106th Congress, Reid Voted With Daschle 91% Of The Time.
(CQ Vote Analysis, Performed 1/31/05)
* In The 107th Congress, Reid Voted With Daschle 93% Of The Time.
(CQ Vote Analysis, Performed 1/31/05)
* In The 108th Congress, Reid Voted With Daschle 94% Of The Time.
(CQ Vote Analysis, Performed 1/31/05)
Harry Reid Has A 76 Lifetime Rating From The Ultra-Liberal Americans For
Democratic Action. (ADA Website, www.adaction.org/ , Accessed 1/11/05)
* Reid Has A Dismal Lifetime Rating Of 21 From The American
Conservative Union. (ACU Website, acuratings.com/ , Accessed 1/24/05)
Reid Has A 90% Lifetime Rating From AFL-CIO. (AFL-CIO Website,
www.afl-cio.org , Accessed 1/24/05)
Reid Has An 89% Lifetime Rating From AFSCME. (SEIU Website,
www.afscme.org , Accessed 1/24/05)
Reid Received A Lackluster 34% Lifetime Rating From U.S. Chamber Of
Commerce. (U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Website, How They Voted
Scorecards, www.uschamber.com , Accessed 12/2/04)
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rcurl
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response 468 of 526:
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Mar 9 02:31 UTC 2006 |
So, you are proving that Reid fits the definition of liberal? Let's review
that again:
liberal (adj). 1. Possessing or manifesting a free and generous heart;
bountiful. 2. Appropriate or fitting for a broad and enlightened mind. 3.
Free from narrowness, bigotry, or bondage to authority or creed, as in
religion; inclined to democratic or republican ideas, as opposed to
monarchical or aristocratic, as in politics; broad, popular, progressive.
and KLG gave of his example of Reid not following the definition as
"Harry Reid: "Free from Narrowness . . .Progressive" - liberals appear to
be stuck in the past, afraid to consider new approaches to problems they
have been unable to solve with the same-old same-old."
Well, that's some vacuous accusations, but none of it pertains to the fit
between Reid and the definition. He considers new approaches whenever
there is an opportunity to do so. Of course, the conservatives
(illiberals) in Congress crush anything that is new, or even progressive.
You've been hoisted on your own petard, KLG.
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keesan
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response 469 of 526:
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Mar 9 04:10 UTC 2006 |
Rane, will you please stop posting that definition?
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rcurl
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response 470 of 526:
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Mar 9 05:55 UTC 2006 |
No.
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happyboy
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response 471 of 526:
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Mar 9 09:32 UTC 2006 |
thank you.
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jep
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response 472 of 526:
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Mar 9 13:49 UTC 2006 |
Rane's definition of "liberal" is not the political definition. It is
a personality type. There are many political conservatives who fit all
of Rane's criteria, and many political liberals who don't fit any of
them.
The two words are homonyms. Rane's equating the two is like equating
the rough surface of a stucco wall with orange roughy, the edible
fish. It's obviously irrelevant and obviously based on, or intended to
create, confusion. It was entertaining once, years and years ago, but
has long since lost it's novelty for all of us but one.
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bru
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response 473 of 526:
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Mar 9 14:03 UTC 2006 |
no, I think he actually believes it. I think he also believe the illiberal
applies to all conservatives.
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nharmon
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response 474 of 526:
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Mar 9 14:30 UTC 2006 |
Rane seems to either be extremely closed-minded, or trolling. For
someone who is well educated, he brings very little new knowledge into
discussions. Instead, he just copies and pastes things, and reiterates
democratic talking points. And when confronted with contradicting
information, he just reiterates democratic talking points. He's gotten
to the point where even Sindi is sick of reading his definition of
liberal!
I think we would be better off if people stopped copying their
respective party leaders and tried to think for themselves for once.
And when you come to a different conclusion than your party, I wish you
would have the integrity to stand by what you believe and not tow the
party line. This applies to people like RC and RW as well as KLG.
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richard
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response 475 of 526:
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Mar 9 16:35 UTC 2006 |
to portray reid as a liberal, klg quotes very conservative media. The
National Journal is a well known right wing publication. Of course you are
going to find right wing media that will say that ANY democrat is a liberal.
Get better sources than that. Reid is center to right, he is an NRA member,
he is pro-life.
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klg
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response 476 of 526:
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Mar 9 17:13 UTC 2006 |
Then why does he check with moveon.org before he says anything?
And, if Reid is "center to right," what do you call Lieberman and
Nelson?
And, Curl, as far as I am concerned, you can post your "liberal"
definition every hour on the hour. If I decide I don't want to read
it, I won't. It really isn't that hard to do.
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keesan
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response 477 of 526:
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Mar 9 20:07 UTC 2006 |
I am going to skim past any posting with that definition in it.
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klg
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response 478 of 526:
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Mar 9 20:39 UTC 2006 |
You go, girl!
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happyboy
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response 479 of 526:
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Mar 9 22:36 UTC 2006 |
you go ostrich!
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richard
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response 480 of 526:
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Mar 10 01:39 UTC 2006 |
Lieberman is center to right on foreign policy, and liberal on social
issues.
Nelson is center to right.
Not all democrats are liberals and not all republicans are
conservatives klg, or didnt you know that?
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klg
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response 481 of 526:
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Mar 10 03:49 UTC 2006 |
No way. You're kiddin me, bro. (This isn't another of your jokes??)
Both Reid & Lieberman are center to right? Seems to me they have
slightly different opinions on Iraq. That center to right must cover a
lot of turf.
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tod
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response 482 of 526:
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Mar 10 17:26 UTC 2006 |
re #480
Lieberman is center to right on foreign policy, and liberal on social
issues.
I disagree. He's been screaming about the "faith based initiatives" being
a ploy to give tax dollars to legally protected bigotry.
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rcurl
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response 483 of 526:
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Mar 10 17:55 UTC 2006 |
Isn't it "liberal" to object to "faith based initiatives"?
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klg
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response 484 of 526:
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Mar 10 20:07 UTC 2006 |
liberal (adj). 1. Possessing or manifesting a free and generous heart;
bountiful. 2. Appropriate or fitting for a broad and enlightened mind.
3. Free from narrowness, bigotry, or bondage to authority or creed, as
in religion; inclined to democratic or republican ideas, as opposed to
monarchical or aristocratic, as in politics; broad, popular,
progressive.
No. I think that would be ungenerous, not enlightened, narrow-minded,
and non-progressive.
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tod
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response 485 of 526:
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Mar 10 20:32 UTC 2006 |
I would rather have taxes going into public schools rather that religious
private ones.
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scholar
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response 486 of 526:
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Mar 10 20:39 UTC 2006 |
texas ryhmes was TAXES.
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tod
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response 487 of 526:
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Mar 10 20:55 UTC 2006 |
so does axis
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richard
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response 488 of 526:
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Mar 10 21:01 UTC 2006 |
Lieberman just announced he's running for re-election. Connecticut's GOP
congressman endorsed him. I don't know why klg should dislike a guy so
intensely religious as Lieberman. I mean the guy refused to campaign on the
sabbath when he ran for vp and president.
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tod
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response 489 of 526:
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Mar 10 21:03 UTC 2006 |
I don't shave on the Sabbath but I'll make pancakes. Everybody deserves some
off time, dude. I know guys that like to go fishing on Sabbath.
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rcurl
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response 490 of 526:
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Mar 10 21:18 UTC 2006 |
Re #484: you are correct in so long as the "faith based initiative" does
not engage in prosletyzing or use any of the support for its religious
purposes. Once it does that it becomes "ungenerous, not enlightened,
narrow-minded, and non-progressive". My impression from news reports is
that most "faith based initiative" can't resist prosletyzing, and thereby
they become illiberal.
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nharmon
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response 491 of 526:
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Mar 10 21:20 UTC 2006 |
I like to mow my lawn on the sabbath, but I don't consider it work.
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