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(<PRE> The Backtalk thing I would like is a companion product that\ntakes usenet messages on my PC and organizes them to look like the\nconference, item, response structure we all like.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE><a href="read?conf=helpers&item=111&rsel=45">resp:45</a>: Hmmm...that's a pretty Eric-Bassey-specific feature. It's\ntrivial to implement, but is it worth sending 10 extra bytes of data to\nevery backtalk user on the planet when only Eric-Bassey will know\nthey're there or have any use for them? Possibly, but not definately. \nI'd be curious to know more exactly what you are trying to do. Maybe we\ncan find a solution of more general utility.\n\n<a href="read?conf=helpers&item=111&rsel=46">resp:46</a>: Hmmm...that's a large and difficult project, and one I'd never\nuse, since I don't read Usenet. Developing free software you don't want\nto use yourself isn't a sane pass-time. You need to find a skilled\nprogrammer who actually would like to have such a thing. Hmmm...maybe\ntpryan?\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>Heh, I guess you're right there. Sometimes a little perspective is a \ngood thing.\n\nI have a small console window which has buttons for each of my hotlist \nconferences, and for the entrance page. The entrance page button opens \nanother small window sized to show the active items part of that page, \nand having an anchor at that part of the page would simplify the display \nof the current items list in that window. It is a totally trivial thing, \nespecially since I already wrote a frameset with javascript to scroll the \npage by a certain amount when it loads, bu I thought I'd ask anyway... \n;\)\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>I dunno, I think I agree somewhat with other's request. I find that\nanchors are very under-used in most large pages or complex, and\nexpenditure of a few static bytes would increase their utility quite\na bit. Compared to even one button image, an anchor is tiny.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>You're making HTML jokes but you don't know what an anchor tag is?\n\nStolen from <a target="_blank" href="http://www.ku.edu/~acs/docs/other/HTML_quick.shtml">http://www.ku.edu/~acs/docs/other/HTML_quick.shtml</a>\n\n\nHyperlinks or Anchors\n\n<a name="anchor_name"> . . . </a> \nDefine a target location in a document \n<a href="#anchor_name"> . . . </a> \nLink to a location in the base document, which is the document containing the\nanchor tag itself, unless a base tag has been specified. \n<a href="URL"> . . . </a> \n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>Yeah, I know what <A>...</A> does, and I know that those are anchors, but I\ncouldn't make sense of other's request in that context. I guess it's because\nI don't use backtalk.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE> In this context, it's a machine-recognizable index mark inside a document.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>Anchors are useless unless there are links to them. Eric is unusual in\nwriting his own HTML pages that link into Backtalk pages.\n\nOne thing I've thought of doing is a small page that displays you hot\nlist, with numbers of new responses and items in each. This would\nautomatically refresh every X minutes. Truely fanatic conferencers\ncould pop this up in a small window and leave it on their screen. \nAnytime something new happens in the conference, they'd know within a\nfew minutes.\n\nThe same mini-window with just a hotlist in it might work for Eric's\napplication.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>Actually, that's exactly what I've done. \n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>m-net update:\nsendmail is down all together, till I have some time to clear up the\nmailqueue. Sorry for the spam and associated headaches. FYI, as of now, it's\nmy opinion that jp2 and/or twinkie were not responsible. Still\ninvestigating....\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>You mean I *didn't* get a message from twinkie? I'm disappointed.\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>Re #54: That's chicken-and-egg, Jan. Without an anchor, it's\nimpossible to link to it. Nevertheless, providing the opportunity\nfor people to do things you hadn't necessarily thought of beforehand\nis a nice gesture. \(Bruce Schneier's CryptoGram newletters have\nanchors all over the place, making it very easy to link directly\nto the section of interest. The facility gets used, too.\)\n</PRE>\n)
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(<PRE>The polls are now open for voting on a proposed amendment to Grex's bylaws.\nBriefly, the proposal is to allow telephone conferencing or similar electronic\nmeans to count as valid attendance at Board of Directors meetings.\n\nTo vote, or simply to see what the proposal says, telnet to Grex and type\n"vote" at a Unix shell prompt, or "!vote" at almost any other prompt. Any\nuser can cast a ballot, but only the votes of members in good standing will\nbe counted in determining the outcome. Bylaw amendments require a 3/4\nmajority of those members voting in order to pass.\n\nThe polls will close at the end of the day \(EDT\) on Saturday, September 28.\n</PRE>\n)
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