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phenix
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response 46 of 56:
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Feb 11 23:59 UTC 2002 |
which, oddly enough was my point. generally everything except vaginal
conditions is sociologically affected, and even that can be
changed by mood, etc.
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jaklumen
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response 47 of 56:
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Feb 12 00:03 UTC 2002 |
I don't think we're considering *all* the factors, although it seems
that the consensus is pointing towards the notion that sexual response
is more psychological than anything, especially from the majority of
things I've read and the observations I've made. even resp:44 seems
to at least tacitly agree that psychology is part of it. resp:40 but
more resp:43 by jazz nails more or less the studies I've read.
First of all, I'm not sure where morwen got her ideas in resp:41, but
noting that she's pregnant, I understand there are some chemical
changes that might effect libido. She's in her 7th month. But on
that point, I know she is thinking a lot about the pregnancy, and so
perhaps many things about it are distractions away from sex. She gets
the hangups on size we've mentioned here, not just because of body
image (i.e., "How can pregnant be sexy?") but because, well, you're a
bit more limited in your positions and you have to be rather careful,
compared to say, if you were all gymnasts performing advanced kama
sutra positions.
Now that she has a new life coming in three months, I would expect
she's mentally planning out the changes. There will be other things
to take care of besides sex. For that matter, she's already been
taking care of other things besides sex. The seed was planted, it
germinated, so we're taking care of the fruit.
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eeyore
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response 48 of 56:
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Feb 12 01:03 UTC 2002 |
It's funny....I think that all of the women that I've discussed sex with
have all been (according to Greg's scale) Type II, (with the notable
exception of one who was molsested as a child, and incredibaly self concious
to boot). What I've found is that most women can be any type....just
depending on her mood, who's she's with, where she is in her period cycle
(not a joke...it can make a huge difference), what's going on around here,
and whether or not it's Tuesday.
On the other hand, most of the women that I know seem to buck the normal
sexual ideas of women. Enjoyment of visual porn, easily aroused (most of
the time), willing to try new and exciting things...all of that and more!
*grin*
Whoops....I mistyped...I meant to say Type III. (sorry...I wasn't going
back to fix it)
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phenix
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response 49 of 56:
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Feb 12 01:34 UTC 2002 |
type III ann arbor honies;)
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jazz
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response 50 of 56:
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Feb 12 02:57 UTC 2002 |
Interesting segueue about female ejaculation; it has really bothered
some people I've been with. They also tend to be the "noah and the flood"
type though, and it's hard to tell if it's the ejaculation, or of it's the
fact that any good sex tends to be really messy that they're worked up about.
I'd disagree with one part of #44: it's not the physiology, it's the
psychology that determines if someone's able to enjoy themselves. Well,
barring bad breast enlargement or reduction surgery (and that really does get
a bit strange at time, remembering that only one is sensitive). There is one
point of physiology that I haven't seen studied, though, that I've made
informal conclusions about ... the distance between the clitoris and vagina
seems to make a real difference in the woman's attitude about penetration.
The closer it is, the more enthusiasm there is for penetration over oral sex,
and the further, the reverse. Barring the whole self-conscious factor, that
is.
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jazz
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response 51 of 56:
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Feb 12 03:02 UTC 2002 |
Oh, and another segueue. I think sexual response *is* more
psychological than anything. With men as well as women, though it really
isn't recognized as well with men, and a physical problem with a woman is more
likely to be misdiagnosed as a psychological one, and a psychological problem
with a man is more likely to be misdiagnosed as a physical one. Either way,
though, I believe that both men and women need to be mentally stimulated
before physical stimulation will really work, though mild physical stimulation
can accomplish that.
On a side note, the bit about men being more visually oriented than
women is a cultural myth. Pupil dilation studies have shown the same kind
of response among heterosexual women to pictures of attractive men as with
heterosexual men to pictures of attractive women. The big difference seems
to be that unmarried men don't tend to respond as well to pictures of babies.
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eeyore
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response 52 of 56:
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Feb 12 06:36 UTC 2002 |
Gee, I wonder why? :)
It's funny how juices flow. Sometimes, no matter how hard you try, they
just don't flow as much, while others it seems like no matter what you do,
they're dripping down your legs. I think that it just kind of depends on
physical things, like how hydrated you are. That was a big problem for me
for awhile, before I went on thyroid medicine. When you have a low thyroid
problem, you have a hard time staying hydrated, and that affects
*everything*. Once I was on drugs, problem cleared up. I've also noticed
that drinking more water vs. soda really helps too. (My sister in law also
reported the same thing when she went on thyroid medicine...not that I had
really wanted to hear about her and my brother's sex life :)
John, On your "study" of distance between clitoris and vagina: Have you any
guesses on distances? For instance, how far is "close" and how far is
"far\"? Idle curiousity, really :)
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michaela
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response 53 of 56:
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Feb 12 07:50 UTC 2002 |
A half-hour? I'd go crazy. I'm usually ready before he has his damn pants
off.
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eeyore
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response 54 of 56:
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Feb 12 13:30 UTC 2002 |
I don't know....I'd be ready to go before him usually, but I *adore* long
bouts of foreplay. However, I don't know that they get me any readier for
sex.
One of the things that kind of messed up my last relationship was the fact
that I was a hell of a lot hornier than him. When we first started dating,
we saw each other almost every day, and managed to have sex probably 2/3 of
that. (depending on where we were). By the time we hit a little over two
years, I had to work at getting him into bed....he just wasn't that
interested. Kind of irritating when you are all ready to go, and he gives
the "not tonight" speech. On the other hand, since I fully believe in
anybody's right to say no at any time, I wasn't going to push it.
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jazz
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response 55 of 56:
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Feb 12 16:11 UTC 2002 |
Ya know, if I'm going to go off and say something like that, I should
have some measurements. However it did seem terribly gauche to whip out a
ruler at the moment.
I'd estimate "close" was about an inch and a half. Seriously.
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morwen
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response 56 of 56:
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Feb 12 23:36 UTC 2002 |
<blush> okay, I guess I'm the victim of my own standard. I've read
that people tend to believe that everyone reacts the same as they
would. Guess that makes me a classic case. I was abused sexually when
I was ten. Type I. I'm in therapy for it, working on it. I guess
Psychology than I thought it did. But I still think that the way
people are made (ie the males having the penis in a visible spot) has
at least _something_ to do with it.
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