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25 new of 870 responses total.
tsty
response 453 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 09:42 UTC 2005

grex is fast and fine as of this entry ... whatever was done - thankxx!
russ
response 454 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 12:21 UTC 2005

Yup, enough of the problem has been fixed to allow mail to flow again.
tsty
response 455 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 15:37 UTC 2005

oh, did i type too fast in #453 ....  bogged & idleded & disconnected
about 3 minutes later ... 
gull
response 456 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 23:11 UTC 2005

It seemed suspiciously like a path MTU discovery problem of some sort. 
Pings and such worked, but anything that used larger packets failed.
jor
response 457 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 23:12 UTC 2005

        
        right. number of bytes.
gull
response 458 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 23:50 UTC 2005

Yeah.  Initially I thought I was having a rerun of an MTU problem I used
to have on my own connection, but then I noticed every site I tried
except Grex was working fine.
russ
response 459 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 01:21 UTC 2005

The lag problem and the mail-delivery problem appear to have been
fixed completely.
naftee
response 460 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 03:38 UTC 2005

Whoa.
bru
response 461 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 06:28 UTC 2005

wanna bet?  took nearly 30 seconds to establish the telnet connection over
my eathernet from work.
jep
response 462 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 15:59 UTC 2005

The system is deadly slow again, both via putty and Backtalk.  I assume
someone is aware there is a problem, but there's very little information,
it5 seems, about what is being done about it, or if anything is being
done.  Any idea abuot what is causing the problem?
cross
response 463 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 18:43 UTC 2005

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rcurl
response 464 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 19:11 UTC 2005

Still very slow.
richard
response 465 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 22:37 UTC 2005

BAcktalk is barely responding at all.  Half the time the pages don't load and
when they do it takes five minutes or more.  I couldn't even get to the agora
screen, I had to telnet in finally just to post this
gull
response 466 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 01:05 UTC 2005

How long will it be before we move to colo?  Is it really not worth even
trying to get the upstream problem resolved in the mean time?

Right now I'm even getting intermittent lag on the *dialin*.  This morning
dialin was giving me a 1-2 second delay for each character.
rksjr
response 467 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 03:07 UTC 2005

Re. #463 & #466, postings by cross and gull, referring to "a problem with 
an upstream ISP":

Does "a problem with an upstream ISP" mean: unusual use or misuse of the 
dsl service by some other customer of the service in such a way as to 
limit Grex' normal use of the service?

keesan
response 468 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 03:09 UTC 2005

What does an upstream ISP have to do with slow dialin, which I just had for
the past 10 minutes (wait 20 sec to see the cursor move)?

If the DSL line is the problem can we cancel wtihout having to pay for the
rest of the contract?
cross
response 469 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 03:43 UTC 2005

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richard
response 470 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 04:26 UTC 2005

#469...so you are saying its just a *coincidence* that these major lag issues
occurred with in days after grex moving to the new server?  The timing has
to make you wonder.  maybe grex would be better off back on the old server
for the time being.  maybe nextgrex can't handle its job
cross
response 471 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 05:00 UTC 2005

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russ
response 472 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 05:01 UTC 2005

Conditions have deteriorated the point that mail delivery seems to
have halted some time Thursday morning.  Lag is bad now and I jave
had to drop one connection because it was stuck.
keesan
response 473 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 05:02 UTC 2005

Dialed in.  Load average 028.  It just took me three tries to type that number
and I have to wait 10 sec or so to see what I typed appear onscreen.
0.28.  Sometimes things go full speed, sometimes a great deal of lag.
No mail came in recently (for a few hours).  How would ISP problems affect
dialins?
gelinas
response 474 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 06:11 UTC 2005

(richard, we've been dealing with network problems since last summer, long
before the move to the new machine.)
mcnally
response 475 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 07:00 UTC 2005

 re #474:  
 > we've been dealing with network problems since last summer

 the recent problems seem qualitatively different than the ongoing outages
 that were occurring previously.

 re #470:
 > maybe grex would be better off back on the old server for the time being.

 That would take a major amount of work to move back to the old server
 and then another major amount of work when the new server was judged
 to be ready for prime time.  Worse, one might complete all that work
 only to find that the source of the problem lay elsewhere, as seems to
 be the current prevailing opinion among staff.

richard
response 476 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 07:17 UTC 2005

#474...gelinas, what mcnally said...the problems have clearly gotten worse,
much worse, since the switch to the new server.  I understand the work that
would be involved in going back to the old server, but how else can the new
server's role in the current problems be conclusively proven?  
rksjr
response 477 of 870: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 07:41 UTC 2005

Regarding the particular variety of intermittent screen freezing (if there 
are different kinds) that we have been observing recently, when I'm logged 
onto Grex and my screen happens to be frozen, are all the other screens of 
other logged on Grex users also frozen <<at that moment>>, or at any given 
time are some Grex screens frozen and some not frozen?

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